[LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC

Mon Dec 3 20:58:11 EST 2007

Actually RT-Systems makes one for 23,ドル their RTS-03 seen at the bottom of 
http://www.rtsystemsinc.com/othercables_template.cfm?cfid=2811076&cftoken=60
058299# 
I think it is the best for radio programming since you can adjust the port
latency if you use the included drivers. This allows timimg changes that
make the programming to and from the radio a little more stable. 
They work well for radio control purposes as well. 
 Ben
I built a P.C. and added two (2) each 4 port serial cards. Now I have 9
serial ports on one computer 
-----Original Message-----
From: logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:logic-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of K0DAN
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 5:14 PM
To: Dennis
Cc: aj4f at comcast.net; logic at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
Hi Dennis...
Well since I started this thread, several things happened.
a) I found out the USB-serial boxes are not all that cheap (certainly not in
the 40ドル range as I'd hoped). But they are available if one needs one.
b) Serial cards are still available for PC's with PCI bus. These too are not
as cheap as I'd expected either...I think the prices are rising again, as 
serial becomes more rare. But they are available if one needs one.
c) My hamshack PC (about 1 year old) has one serial port on the motherboard,
but no more. It has served me well with Logic, but now, with two rigs, I 
need more I/O.
d) I decided to order a 2-port PCI serial card from one of my suppliers 
(around 35ドル), as it's the cheapest solution. Have not yet received it, but 
it should let me add at least one more COM port, and if I'm lucky (and it's 
configurable), maybe two more COM ports. It'll do the job...for now.
Interesting how the I/O interfaces seem to grow for ALL devices! It's a hard
life for programmers, eh?
Tnx es 73
Dan
K0DAN
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis" <dh at hosenose.com>
To: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
Cc: <aj4f at comcast.net>; <logic at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
> Hi Dan:
>> RS-232 will be a while in disappearing. Even "USB" GPS units appear to
> software as an RS-232 device.
>> I imagine that the next thing that will happen is that some menufacturer 
> will
> put a USB port on the rig, and ship a driver disk that will set up an 
> RS-232
> interface in Windows, like GPSs do.
>> Meanwhile, thank God for USBV=>RS232 adapters! However, the last
> motherboard I got actually had one RS-232 port on it.
>> 73,
>> Dennis
>> From: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
> To: "Robie" <aj4f at comcast.net>
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>>> Hi Robie...
>>>> Thanks for yur comments. I just sent some more questions to Jack K4WSB, 
>> CC'd
>> to the reflector, so will not duplicate here. But they all relate to
>> possible changes in operating habits using LOGIC, concessions, etc., when
>> the complexity of two rigs is added.
>>>> It's hard to find more than one serial port on a PC anymore...sometimes 
>> no
>> COM port at all! Soon they will be gone entirely. I only use a laptop 
>> with
>> LOGIC when running Field Day or other contest scenario, but the laptops 
>> are
>> notorious for no longer having COM ports. Yours & Jack's suggestion to 
>> use a
>> USB-derived serial interface sounds like the best future-looking 
>> solution,
>> even though it's a bit pricey. It's surprising that transceiver mfgrs are
>> still using a serial bus, when USB, Bluetooth, firewire, and even WIFI 
>> are
>> available to them. Yes, it costs them money to develop something new,
>> but......
>>>> I appreciate your (and others') insights into solving my new problem. I
>> still have to think through antenna, amplifier, and soundcard switching. 
>> New
>> rig = highclass problems!
>>>> Tnx es 73
>>>> Dan
>> K0DAN
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Robie" <aj4f at comcast.net>
>> To: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>>>>>> > Dan,
>> >
>> > Several others have commented already, but here is my bit! With a 
>> > kenwood
>> > and a yaesu you will need two ports, one for each radio. You can use 
>> > two
>> > native serial ports on your mother board (assuming you have them!), 
>> > serial
>> > ports on an expansion board, USB to serial converters etc. I have
>> > successfully used all of the above at one time or another. I have 
>> > heard
>> > that some individuals have had problems with serial ports on lap top
>> > computers. Personally, I have never used Logic on a lap top, so I have

>> > no
>> > first hand experience. Currently, I use one native serial port 
>> > connected
>> > to a CI-V interface for my IC746 and a USB to serial converter 
>> > connected
>> > to my Elecraft K2. Both work well. My computer is an old generic AMD
>> > running Windows XP.
>> >
>> > I hope this helps!
>> >
>> > Robie - AJ4F
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
>> > To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic 
>> > logging
>> > program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Cc: <aj4f at comcast.net>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 8:57 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Robie...
>> >>
>> >> So is this bottom line that I need a separate serial port for each 
>> >> radio?
>> >>
>> >> Barring availability of multiple serial ports on the hamshack PC, do I
>> >> have
>> >> an option to look for one of the multi-serial kludge devices and/or
>> >> USB-to-serial black boxes?
>> >>
>> >> Seting up each rig in LOGIC is easy and obvious, altho the interface 
>> >> to
>> >> the
>> >> outside world is a little more mysterious.
>> >>
>> >> One rig is a Yaesu, one's and Kenwood.
>> >>
>> >> Tnx es 73
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >> K0DAN
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "Robie" <aj4f at comcast.net>
>> >> To: "LOGic is open to all radio amateurs for discussion of LOGic 
>> >> logging
>> >> program" <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:56 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Dan,
>> >>>
>> >>> In a nut shell, you must set up each rig with its own port using the
>> >>> setup
>> >>> menu. You will see a seperate "rig" display for each rig in Logic. 
>> >>> You
>> >>> can select the rig from which Logic will collect data on the Main log
>> >>> form.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you have multiple ICOM rigs I believe it is possible to use only 
>> >>> one
>> >>> port and simply specivy different addresses for each rig.
>> >>>
>> >>> Robie - AJ4F
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>> From: "K0DAN" <k0dan at comcast.net>
>> >>> To: <logic at mailman.qth.net>
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:55 PM
>> >>> Subject: [LOGic] 2 RIGS IN LOGIC
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>I just added another transceiver to the hamshack and now have two HF
>> >>>>stations on the air simultaneously. Can't find anything in the HELP
>> >>>>index
>> >>>>for setting up two rigs with LOGIC.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What options do I have in order to connect both to LOGIC?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It'd be preferable to have both rigs simultaneously interfaced with
>> >>>> LOGIC, but I could live with fast switching between the two rigs 
>> >>>> (but
>> >>>> prefer not to have to swap cables and change setup menu each time).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Has this topic been sent to the archives?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tnx es 73
>> >>>> Dan
>> >>>> K0DAN
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