[Kenwood] Kenwood Digest, Vol 97, Issue 13

Sun May 20 13:32:37 EDT 2012

 Hi : I have tried and owned most of the HF mobile antennas
\ made through the years.
 The best reports I got on all the the antennas was the
 outbacker.
 I used it on the TenTec Scout and all my 706,s and FT-100 D
 too.
 Jerry w0sat
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Message: 1
Date: 2012年5月19日 17:18:28 -0400
From: Randy Allen <ka0azs at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Kenwood] Antennas
To: Danny <dannydebont at gmail.com>
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On my TM-D700 I use a Comet Z-750 for around town use (to clear my
garage and the garage at work) and an SBB-7 during public service
events/traveling cross country. They have worked well for me for years
on APRS and voice:
http://www.hamcontact.com/comet/mobile.html
I have an IC-706MKIIG, but for HF work it's hard to beat a TarHeel. I
have a Little TarHeel II on my truck and it works great! Note, I am a
casual HF user, not a contestor or DX chaser.
http://www.tarheelantennas.com/
For tuning I use a Turbo Tuner that adjusts the antenna rather than a
standard tuner. Their web sites shows a version for the TS-480. I have
no knowledge of how well it works with the Kenwood.
http://www.n2vz.com/
See my QRZ page for pictures of the antenna install.
Hope this helps.
73
Randy
On 5/19/2012 09:08, Danny wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>> I want get the TM-D710 and TS-480HX but I am a little new to hamradio ...
>> Which antennas will be the better for these two radios and which antenna 
> tuner
> would be best suited for the TS-480HX ... both will be mounted in my 
> vehicle ...
>> Thank You
>> Danny
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Message: 2
Date: 2012年5月19日 19:02:46 -0700
From: ny6p01 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Kenwood] Antennas
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On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 05:18:28PM -0400, Randy Allen wrote:
> On my TM-D700 I use a Comet Z-750 for around town use (to clear my
> garage and the garage at work) and an SBB-7 during public service
> events/traveling cross country. They have worked well for me for years
> on APRS and voice:
>> http://www.hamcontact.com/comet/mobile.html
>> I have an IC-706MKIIG, but for HF work it's hard to beat a TarHeel. I
> have a Little TarHeel II on my truck and it works great! Note, I am a
> casual HF user, not a contestor or DX chaser.
>> http://www.tarheelantennas.com/
>> For tuning I use a Turbo Tuner that adjusts the antenna rather than a
> standard tuner. Their web sites shows a version for the TS-480. I have
> no knowledge of how well it works with the Kenwood.
>> http://www.n2vz.com/
>> See my QRZ page for pictures of the antenna install.
>> Hope this helps.
>> 73
>> Randy
>
Tarheel ant's and like designs are pretty inefficient designs. You give up a
lot by having that wide coverage in a compact package. It has it's uses, no
doubt, but if maximum signal is the goal, I'd go with a long whip instead.
JMHO. :)
Terry
>> On 5/19/2012 09:08, Danny wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I want get the TM-D710 and TS-480HX but I am a little new to hamradio 
> > ...
> >
> > Which antennas will be the better for these two radios and which antenna 
> > tuner
> > would be best suited for the TS-480HX ... both will be mounted in my 
> > vehicle ...

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Message: 3
Date: 2012年5月19日 19:27:01 -0700
From: Rick Bates <happymoosephoto at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Kenwood] Antennas
To: <ny6p01 at gmail.com>, <kenwood at mailman.qth.net>
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You might want to investigate your comment a bit more. Let's see, a random
whip that requires a tuner (more loss, more stuff in the vehicle) versus a
resonant antenna?
There is no argument that a full sized antenna will outperform any shortened
antenna (some beam designs excepted).
The efficiency of the screwdriver antenna (well, any shortened antenna)
depends on the coil design. There are better designs out there and the
Tarheel (HiQ and Scorpion) are better than others. You can use a short
whip, with a cap hat in part because it's the coil that makes it work and
they're darned efficient. An efficient coil makes a better short antenna.
Or put empirically, how many whip antennas are used compared to screwdriver
designs are being used? There must be something to that.
Any antenna system is a compromise of a series of choices (height, length,
style) and mobile antenna systems are the same. Tarheel or similar is a
good choice.
Rick wa6nhc
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From: ny6p01 at gmail.com
Tarheel ant's and like designs are pretty inefficient designs. You give up a
lot by having that wide coverage in a compact package. It has it's uses, no
doubt, but if maximum signal is the goal, I'd go with a long whip instead.
JMHO. :)
Terry
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Message: 4
Date: 2012年5月19日 23:29:14 -0400
From: Randy Allen <ka0azs at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Kenwood] Antennas
To: ny6p01 at gmail.com
Cc: kenwood at mailman.qth.net
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Which is why is put in the caveat of " Note, I am a
casual HF user, not a contestor or DX chaser."
The TarHeel has served me well for my type of usage (casual HF mobile
during long cross country trips). To me a simple compact package that
gives good performance and minimum fuss (including NOT carrying and
switching to extra antennas for each band and a bulky tuner) was the
goal. Compared to what I had (i.e. nothing), I don't feel I've given up
anything.
This set of compromises serves me well. Your Mileage obviously varies.
Maybe we can get a chance to discuss it on the air sometime.
73
Randy
On 5/19/2012 22:02, ny6p01 at gmail.com wrote:
> Tarheel ant's and like designs are pretty inefficient designs. You give up 
> a
> lot by having that wide coverage in a compact package. It has it's uses, 
> no
> doubt, but if maximum signal is the goal, I'd go with a long whip instead.
> JMHO. :)
>> Terry
>
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