[Dxbase] DXBase and Windows 7 "Pain"

Thu Jan 6 17:13:29 EST 2011

Hi Jack, all......
Well, first, one would have to know what a hosts file is........I sure 
as hell don't.
Steve, N4JQQ
On 1/6/2011 1:30 PM, Jack wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>> Interesting idea and maybe Neal or others are up for the challenge, I don't
> know. But, to work, there would have to be an assumption that everyone's
> machine starts off with the same setup, same security options, same
> directory structure, etc... In other words, you would have to assume a
> standard starting place. From experience over the twenty or so years that I
> had direct involvement with DXbase, I doubt this would be the case. For
> whatever reason, hams just like to be different. They seem to want to
> change things from the norm all the time. It's just the way they are. So,
> I'm skeptical to say the least. I also doubt that the directions would be
> followed in a way that actually makes a dent on the number of folks who have
> problems. There are countless examples of step by step instructions being
> given for various things and the horror stories of those who thought they
> were following them but didn't understand enough to realize when they had
> made a mistake until it was a mess. What could be simpler than telling
> someone to copy the hosts file from the DXbase folder into the necessary
> Windows 7 folder? Yet how many times has this appeared on the reflector
> with cries for help?
>> Maybe you're on to something, I'm just not sure.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jim cowan"<ve3kuc at xplornet.com>
> To: "Neal Campbell"<nealk3nc at gmail.com>; "Merle Bone"
> <merlebone at charter.net>
> Cc:<dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] DXBase and Windows 7 "Pain"
>>>>> I think a lot of people are falling into this situation.. That is - being
>> forced to upgrade their computers because of old age or complete failure
>> ..
>> Of course the new computers are supplied ( mostly ) with Win7 - not what
>> most of us using Dxbase users want to see ..
>> I myself am getting to the point where I do multiple backups because my
>> desk
>> top is doing strange stuff and it is as old as Grass..
>>>> We do need ( I think anyway ) a step by step procedure that we can print
>> out
>> and set beside this new beast and follow it along as we try to defeat the
>> thing.. There is a lot ( and I am one ) of us that can follow
>> instructions,,
>> the type of which we used to get when we were building Heathkit equipment
>> ( strip back 1/2 inch on one end - strip back 3/4 inch on the other end of
>> the green wire),, and I am sure that it would reduce a lot of stress and
>> the
>> bombardment of " Help Me's " on the reflector.. I would not limit this
>> type
>> of action just to the installation of Win7 but with most all changes that
>> are or need to be done -- I think years ago it was called being spoon
>> fed..
>> The files could then be archived or down loaded and saved for future
>> reference ..
>>>> I know that this would take time but then again answer all the requests
>> for
>> help takes time also...
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Neal Campbell"<nealk3nc at gmail.com>
>> To: "Merle Bone"<merlebone at charter.net>
>> Cc:<dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] DXBase and Windows 7 "Pain"
>>>>>>>>> Hi Merle
>>>>>> I install it on Win7 about 3 times a workday. I turn off most of the
>>> security stuff on Windows however on the computers I sell but you still
>>> have
>>> to do stuff the right way.
>>>>>> I will list it on a blog entry so you can get it.
>>> 73
>>> Neal Campbell
>>> Abroham Neal Software
>>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
>>> (540) 645 5394
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Merle Bone<merlebone at charter.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Neil,
>>>> I have been reading the "notes of frustration" around DXBase 2007
>>>> and Windows 7 for some time. I have gotten to the point that I
>>>> really need Windows 7 capabilities for some other activities and
>>>> therefore need to migrate my DXBase 2007 system to Windows 7. Is
>>>> there a "cannot fail" "step by step" set of instructions that one
>>>> can follow to make this change, or is "personal blood" an
>>>> absolute requirement? If there is a set of instructions, where
>>>> can they be found?
>>>> Thanks& Good DX, Merle - W0EWM
>>>>>>>> Resent to correct format-
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