[Dxbase] DXBase and Windows 7 "Pain"

Thu Jan 6 14:30:42 EST 2011

Hi Jim,
Interesting idea and maybe Neal or others are up for the challenge, I don't 
know. But, to work, there would have to be an assumption that everyone's 
machine starts off with the same setup, same security options, same 
directory structure, etc... In other words, you would have to assume a 
standard starting place. From experience over the twenty or so years that I 
had direct involvement with DXbase, I doubt this would be the case. For 
whatever reason, hams just like to be different. They seem to want to 
change things from the norm all the time. It's just the way they are. So, 
I'm skeptical to say the least. I also doubt that the directions would be 
followed in a way that actually makes a dent on the number of folks who have 
problems. There are countless examples of step by step instructions being 
given for various things and the horror stories of those who thought they 
were following them but didn't understand enough to realize when they had 
made a mistake until it was a mess. What could be simpler than telling 
someone to copy the hosts file from the DXbase folder into the necessary 
Windows 7 folder? Yet how many times has this appeared on the reflector 
with cries for help?
Maybe you're on to something, I'm just not sure.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jim cowan" <ve3kuc at xplornet.com>
To: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc at gmail.com>; "Merle Bone" 
<merlebone at charter.net>
Cc: <dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Dxbase] DXBase and Windows 7 "Pain"
>I think a lot of people are falling into this situation.. That is - being
> forced to upgrade their computers because of old age or complete failure 
> ..
> Of course the new computers are supplied ( mostly ) with Win7 - not what
> most of us using Dxbase users want to see ..
> I myself am getting to the point where I do multiple backups because my 
> desk
> top is doing strange stuff and it is as old as Grass..
>> We do need ( I think anyway ) a step by step procedure that we can print 
> out
> and set beside this new beast and follow it along as we try to defeat the
> thing.. There is a lot ( and I am one ) of us that can follow 
> instructions,,
> the type of which we used to get when we were building Heathkit equipment
> ( strip back 1/2 inch on one end - strip back 3/4 inch on the other end of
> the green wire),, and I am sure that it would reduce a lot of stress and 
> the
> bombardment of " Help Me's " on the reflector.. I would not limit this 
> type
> of action just to the installation of Win7 but with most all changes that
> are or need to be done -- I think years ago it was called being spoon 
> fed..
> The files could then be archived or down loaded and saved for future
> reference ..
>> I know that this would take time but then again answer all the requests 
> for
> help takes time also...
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc at gmail.com>
> To: "Merle Bone" <merlebone at charter.net>
> Cc: <dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] DXBase and Windows 7 "Pain"
>>>> Hi Merle
>>>> I install it on Win7 about 3 times a workday. I turn off most of the
>> security stuff on Windows however on the computers I sell but you still
>> have
>> to do stuff the right way.
>>>> I will list it on a blog entry so you can get it.
>> 73
>> Neal Campbell
>> Abroham Neal Software
>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
>> (540) 645 5394
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Merle Bone <merlebone at charter.net> 
>> wrote:
>>>>> Neil,
>>> I have been reading the "notes of frustration" around DXBase 2007
>>> and Windows 7 for some time. I have gotten to the point that I
>>> really need Windows 7 capabilities for some other activities and
>>> therefore need to migrate my DXBase 2007 system to Windows 7. Is
>>> there a "cannot fail" "step by step" set of instructions that one
>>> can follow to make this change, or is "personal blood" an
>>> absolute requirement? If there is a set of instructions, where
>>> can they be found?
>>> Thanks & Good DX, Merle - W0EWM
>>>>>> Resent to correct format-
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