[Dxbase] Suggestion for new utility/report
Dave Gmail
ve3wej at gmail.com
Sat Feb 19 14:51:26 EST 2011
When you go to select label print, I found (in the lower right corner)
selecting the correct callsign helps ( I have 2 calls registered)
Also I have exported the 2nd call logs to an adi file and created a separate
log for keeping them separate. (select the callsign filter)
-----Original Message-----
From: dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Fred Handscombe
Sent: February-19-11 12:35 PM
To: Neal Campbell
Cc: dxbase at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Suggestion for new utility/report
Neal
Your first paragraph is stating what I have argued several times until I
just gave up with Jack!
That is how the UK licensing works. If a friend uses my call I am legally
obliged to note his call in my log. In the old days he had to sign his name
too on the paper log. Just exactly how *I* interpret the purpose of the
"OPR call" column
BUT!
If you do that (enter the real OPR Call on each QSO) then you will not be
able to
- print QSLs
- Export to ADIF
(probably something else!)
(You can only log on to the packet cluster with a registered callsign also)
for ANY of the QSOs made by your "friend"
Your second paragraph is incorrect, OPR Call most definitely IS used to
"validate" the use of DXBase 2007 by the registered callsign(s)
QSL cards/label printing and ADIF exporting REALLY IS validated by the "Opr
call"
I have directly experienced it many times with QSL labels
This morning I solved my missing 1044 QSOs in Club log mystery
I was missing 1044 QSOs in 2003 in Club log, the totals per year on DXB and
CL were close all years except 2003
Scrolling the log I saw we used my callsign with 2 other operators in our
Field day activity in 2003
I changed those Opr call entries to "G4BWP" (making my log "illegal"!) and
out of nowhere I get 1044 QSOs exported to ADIF and when upload to Club log
the 2003 year totals matched
The one and only thing I did was change the "OPR call" from what it was
before to G4BWP
It was slightly different in the old DOS versions. You HAD to have the
registered call included on the text to be printed on the QSL labels. If
you did not they would not print!
I don't think it is a bug as its too reliable and so directly related to the
list of registered callsigns
73 Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: Neal Campbell
To: Fred Handscombe
Cc: Fred Handscombe ; Joe WA6AXE ; dxbase at mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Suggestion for new utility/report
Hi Fred
I think that the concept of the OPR Call field is that it should allow
anyone visiting the shack to operate and for the registered owner to know
who it was, not enforcing the call against the registration. So the concept
that it should be a registered call is not how I understand the use of it.
The other two points, however, do not appear to live up to the purpose of
the field (it should not be part of ADIF export validation). The DXBase
re-write will only use a registration key for installation and not for
operational verification BTW. I will see if there is an easy way to fix the
opr call validation 'bug' in the current version!
73
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
Amateur Radio: K3NC
Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
DXBase bug reports: email to cases at dxbase.fogbugz.com
Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Fred Handscombe
<fredch57 at emirates.net.ae> wrote:
Hi Joe
I want to add my thanks fo the support you give the DXbase users!
I have a suggestion for a new report or utility.
DXBase uses the "Opr Call" column to "validate" the use of the
programme. I
have had many discussions with Jack over the years as to why this is
wrong
under the licencing conditions in some countries and hopefully something
new
will be used under the new ownership/SW release.
The way the OPR call column is used introduces errors into the logs and
the
way they interact with the likes of Club Log and LOTW. In fact it was
using
Club log I have spotted my problem (check it out and join at for free
www.clublog.org )
First the Opr Cal is NOT validated against the valid registered
callsigns
which it should be. You can enter anything in the column and you are
NOT
warned, which seems a little unwise when the column is used later to
"validate " the data.
Second if the Opr call entry is NOT one of the registered callsigns then
if
you do an ADIF export to LOTW, for example, then that line of data is
NOT
included in the export file.
Third if you do an LOTW export and certain lines are excluded, these
line
ARE marked as sent to LOTW even though THEY HAVE NOT BEEN sent!! How
crazy
is that? Maybe you see my disagreemnet with this "method" of validating
the
user.
So Joe my request is a report or utility that checks each log line for a
valid registered call against the registration file, and flags up any
wrong
entries in Opr Call column. If there was a way to open each entry for
editing, to undo the errors introduced as above, or do it
automatically,
that would be even better
73 Fred
G4BWP - A65BD
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