[Dxbase] PJ and UA problem

Sun Sep 12 12:22:11 EDT 2010

Neal,
I think you know there is a large population of DXBase users that do not 
want to get into the database to make country changes no matter how easy it 
is for some to do. I simply do not want to take on the risk of corrupting 
the country file when you make changes on your own.
I was at ease using the country prefix macro's that Joe created and had no 
problems. I had even keyed in country prefix changes that Joe provided very 
early on that instructed me step-by-step what data to key-in and where to 
key it and I had no problems.
Its the same debate as before and I am not sure what the solution is. 
Preferably, I want DXBase or any logging program to provide me with the 
necessary prefix changes as soon as they are available that I can download 
into my program and not worry about.
If compromise cannot be reached, as an secondary alternative, if you 
provided me clear step-by-step instruction on prefix changes, that would be 
acceptable and I would key them in. I just do not want to figure out the 
data that must be keyed on my own and then have to figure out where to key 
it.
I always use your latest version of software to ensure compatibility at all 
levels. And I want all new program features available to me whether I need 
them immediately or not. In the past, up-grades were very reasonably priced 
in my opinion and I never skipped one.
Rick Kourey (K4KL)
Marvin/Charlotte, NC
User of Windows DXBase since 1997
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc at gmail.com>
To: "Alan Leith" <aleith at syd.eastlink.ca>
Cc: <dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem
> Hi Al
>> So that puts you in the manual mode of maintenance and thats fine. A lot 
> of
> others do not want the hassle of adding things when they work an 
> "unknown:"
> or incorrect entry so thats why we do this!
>> 73
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal Software
> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
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>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Alan Leith <aleith at syd.eastlink.ca> 
> wrote:
>>> Good grief, guys. I use 2006 and when I type in a prefix that is not
>> already recognized I get an on-screen "reminder" of that. I simply tell
>> the program to map (or not) the call to the prefix I have entered on the
>> line in the log indicating prefix. A perfect example of this is with 
>> those
>> moronic "TO" calls that could be about anywhere there are French
>> possessions. All of this, to me at least, is a no-brainer.
>>>> I can then go into the database and make the necessary "fine tuning"
>> adjustments.
>>>> I'm sorry, but I fail to see that this is a problem. While I do add the
>> new country databases to my contest program, all changes I make in DXbase
>> are done so manually. I did take advantage of several of Joe's fixes 
>> that
>> were designed to simplify things, yes, and Joe was there when I made a
>> couple of goofball errors. But for the most part, I've been able to
>> successfully manage my DXbase programs since the early 90s.
>>>> It is my hope that the next version of my favourite logging program will
>> incorporate some features that I don't already have. At this time, I 
>> don't
>> use any of the 2007 enhancements so it was not worth it to me to upgrade.
>> If 20** adds full dual monitor capability and a few of the other
>> suggestions that have been made, I expect that I will upgrade to it.
>>>> Otherwise, I am perfectly comfortable with 2006.
>>>>>> 73
>>>> Al, VE1AL
>>>>>> ----Original Message-----
>> From: dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell
>> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:10 PM
>> To: Bill Parry
>> Cc: dxbase at mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem
>>>> I can make it simpler if the folks who maintain their old database just
>> stick with that method and do not use the automatic update. From previous
>> polling, I only heard from a couple of people who were actively desiring 
>> to
>> maintain their databases manually (especially if there was a regular 
>> update
>> mechanism).
>>>> In this guise I would provide a mechanism so you can, for instance, 
>> choose
>> to update all of the data or one or more categories (call mapping, prefix
>> mapping, prefixes, qsl managers, etc).
>>>> I am considering just making it simple and making the granular choices at
>> that level instead of complicating things by tracking each individual 
>> entry
>> in the database on whether its been updated by the user or the system!
>>>> 73
>> Neal Campbell
>> Abroham Neal Software
>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
>> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>>>> Amateur Radio: K3NC
>> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
>> DXBase bug reports: email to cases at dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal 
>> forums:
>> http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Bill Parry <bparry at rgv.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> > Just curious Tim, why would you make a manual change that is different
>> > from the accepted correct file?
>> >
>> > Bill W5VX
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:
>> > dxbase-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>> > On Behalf Of N3XX
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:04 AM
>> > To: Neal Campbell
>> > Cc: dxbase at mailman.qth.net
>> > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem
>> >
>> > Sounds great as long as:
>> >
>> > 1. I can still make manual changes to the country prefixes database or
>> > to specific callsigns at any time.
>> >
>> > 2. File update can't overwrite any manual changes I have made to
>> > either of the above.
>> >
>> > If these conditions can't be met, I still prefer to make my own 
>> > changes.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> > Tim - N3XX
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Neal Campbell" <nealk3nc at gmail.com>
>> > To: "Bill Parry" <bparry at rgv.rr.com>
>> > Cc: <dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:48 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Dxbase] PJ and UA problem
>> >
>> >
>> > >I am working on an update function for dxb2007. I am considering
>> > >making to be fed from my server so that all I would have to do in
>> > >the future is change a file and ask you to rerun the DXB update
>> > >program. Is this satisfactory (having to have an internet connection
>> > >when running the utility)?
>> > >
>> > > I will make it so that if it finds the file that specifies the
>> > > update in the program folder, it will ask the user what he wants to
>> > > do.
>> > >
>> > > 73
>> > > Neal Campbell
>> > > Abroham Neal Software
>> > > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
>> > > (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>> > >
>> > > Amateur Radio: K3NC
>> > > Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
>> > > DXBase bug reports: email to cases at dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal
>> > > forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Bill Parry <bparry at rgv.rr.com> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I think one of the major drawbacks of DXBase has been the
>> > >> complexity of keeping the files current with regard to the prefixes
>> and countries.
>> > >> Fortunately in the past we have had "sugar daddies" come up with
>> > >> ways of doing this that wasn't too complicated. Currently we are
>> > >> going to have some major changes in country status (PJ) and changes
>> > >> with Russian prefixes.
>> > >> Hopefully we will have someone make an update that will make these
>> > >> changes for us. (I am hoping that the new version of DXBase will
>> > >> have an easier way of doing these updates.) The contesting
>> > >> programs (CT, Writelog, N1MM) use an update file that you just
>> > >> download and install. I, of course, realize that DXBase is a far
>> > >> more complicated system that takes into consideration the
>> > >> "historical" data as well as the current country status. The
>> > accurate
>> > >> identification of the station, both current and past, is a critical
>> > >> function of any logging program, especially a top of the line one
>> > >> like DXBase!
>> > >>
>> > >> FYI, I like several other folks mentioned, use the QSLing function
>> > >> of DXBase all the time. With a lot of help I was able to get mine
>> > >> set up so that I just put my blank cards into the printer and
>> > >> DXBase prints my cards in alphabetical order. I wrap them up and
>> > >> send to the bureau. This is worth a great deal to me. I wish the
>> > >> design part of this were a little easier to use, but honestly I
>> > >> don't think that you can make it simple enough for me.
>> > >> :-)
>> > >>
>> > >> Bill W5VX
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
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