[Dxbase] Manual entry to the DXCC checkbox - RESOLVED

Sat Feb 3 20:15:29 EST 2007

Glad things worked out for you John. Yes, Joe is a tremendous asset to 
DXbase users everywhere. I appreciate you taking time to post your message. 
Perhaps someone else will benefit from your experience.
Regards,
Jack
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Pelham" <john at radiophile.com>
To: <Dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Manual entry to the DXCC checkbox - RESOLVED
> There were two separate issues causing my problem, both operator error. 
> I'm writing this e-mail so it might help someone else from making the same 
> mistakes.
>>> 1. I complained that some of the QSOs I found with the Previous QSOs 
> dialog were "already checked" when I clicked on the Award field to get the 
> drop-down list with the checkboxes, even though the fields weren't green 
> until I clicked the Award field. This is because the green shading doesn't 
> appear when the row is highlighted. When you do a callsign search from the 
> Previous QSOs dialog, the top result is highlighted automatically. If the 
> top result happened to be the record I was looking for (or if the Find 
> operation produced only one result, i.e., there was only one QSO with that 
> callsign in my log) then that row would be highlighted and I wouldn't see 
> the green shading until I clicked on the Award field. In these cases, the 
> DXCC checkbox was "already checked" because it indeed was correctly 
> already checked because I had already been through my log doing the hand 
> checking of this box at least once before. I just couldn't see the green 
> until I got that particular row un-highlighted.
>>> 2. I complained that some of my checking of the DXCC checkboxes in the 
> Award field "didn't stick" when I went back later to look at the QSOs. 
> Well, some of the apparent non-sticking was due to problem #1 above (i.e., 
> the box really was checked, I just couldn't see it with the row 
> highlighted). But some of my checkbox checking really didn't stick, and 
> this was due to another operator error. After checking each DXCC checkbox, 
> I would click in some other field to write the change to the database. Or 
> so I thought. One must DOUBLE CLICK in some other field, or click twice in 
> two different fields, to write the change. Clicking just once does not 
> remove the pencil icon from the leftmost block in that record row. If the 
> pencil is still there the record is still in edit mode and the change to 
> the record has not been saved. I was only single clicking and then 
> immediately typing in a new callsign to find. As Joe Glockner stated in 
> an e-mail to me:
>> "When we make an adjustment/modification to (say the Callsign
> field), we ONLY have to click outside of that QSO ONCE! The
> same goes for any of the fields that are strictly TEXT.. But,
> when it comes to the dropdown menu columns - those fields will
> always require 2 clicks of the mouse - to get out of the edit mode
> and SAVE the info."
>> My failure to double click left the database in an apparently 
> indeterminate state, which caused #3...
>>> 3. I complained that I got a weird "...CQWAZ..." error message some of the 
> time. This would happen some of the time when I found a new callsign after 
> not properly saving the record (see #2 above). I still don't know why that 
> particular error message appeared or what it meant, but I just went though 
> all my LOTW changes, properly double clicking, and no error messages 
> appeared.
>>> I spent some time discussing my problems with Joe Glockner, and I owe all 
> the solutions and discoveries above to him. Thanks Joe - you sure do know 
> DXbase inside and out!
>>>> 73 to all,
>> John W1JA
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joseph Glockner" <jglock2 at airmail.net>
>> To: "John Pelham" <john at radiophile.com>
>> Cc: <Dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Manual entry to the DXCC checkbox in the Award 
>> field doesn't work
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>> I think that for me - the biggest question would be:
>>>>>> HAVE you ever sent in a DXCC application - and therefore, used
>>> some of the QSOs in your logbook .. IF that is the case, then,
>>> THOSE QSOs that have already been used "will already have" their
>>> AWARD column's DXCC checkbox "checkmarked"!!
>> Yes I have made many DXCC applications with DXbase, and yes, those QSOs 
>> that have been used for those applications already have their DXCC 
>> checkboxes checked. All these QSOs appear to show up in your 
>> dxcccredited report. I believe I understand how this is supposed to 
>> work.
>>>>> There is NO column
>>> that will differentiate between a regular DXCC submission and
>>> another DXCC submission -- once that QSO's DXCC award credit
>>> (checkbox) is checkmarked -- it WILL always be checkmarked -
>>> until you manually "uncheckmark it"..
>> I understand this. I have never, until 10 days ago, made any type of 
>> DXCC submission except a "regular" submission (by which I mean a paper 
>> one, the type that causes the DXCC checkbox to get checked by DXbase 
>> itself when it asks the question about "do you want to check the box..." 
>> etc. during the preparation process of the DXCC submission). There are 
>> lots of QSOs in my log that have the DXCC checkbox already checked as a 
>> result of these past paper DXCC submissions. I don't think I'm having a 
>> problem with any of these.
>>>>> If a particular QSO or QSOs are used for "any type of DXCC
>>> submission" - and THAT QSO might get "re-used" again for
>>> another submission (and therefore you are wanting to MANUALLY
>>> update the AWARD DXCC checkbox) - you will always find that
>>> the checkbox is already checkmarked.
>> According to the dxcccredited report, which I run BEFORE attempting to 
>> manually check any new DXCC checkboxes for my LOTW submission, NONE of 
>> the LOTW QSOs should have their DXCC checkboxes already checked. None of 
>> them appear in the dxcccredited report list. Right?
>>>> In any case, the QSOs that cause me my various problems are random. Each 
>> time I start over with my "virgin" Jan. 13 database, I get a different 
>> group of QSOs that either (a) are already checked, and/or (b) cause the 
>> weird CQWAZ error message when I find them with the Previous QSOs dialog, 
>> and/or (c) don't stay checked when I go back and find them again. In 
>> suppose I could find any random QSOs in my log, not ones that are 
>> associated with my LOTW submission, and see the problem (although I 
>> haven't tried it yet).
>>>>> This is of course assuming that the user is maintaining the
>>> logbook in the normal manner.
>> I suppose this remains to be seen! But, I think I am.
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