[Dxbase] Re: Dxbase PDF QSL's

Fri Aug 17 10:50:23 EDT 2007

Jim's attitude is the reason we are where we are. Someone suggests something
new and there are always some that say: "Let's just forget it!".
Well, that is not the answer. The answer is progress. I have been off the
air for the past 13 years and just got back on this past March. In those 13
years the world has moved on and technology has taken over. Many amateur
organizations and companies are still in the stone age. Go to any ham radio
companies website and tell me how easy it is to browse their wares and place
an online order. OOOpppsss it's in PDF format with no price list.
Although this LOTW is a step forward it is a long way off from being in the
21st century. Why not have the ability to upload and download cards through
LOTW? OOpppssss They can't even keep the site up for too long at a time. 
My wife, who was not around in my ham days, thinks it is so stupid to have
to send for cards for everyone when there is the internet, when technology
has advanced so much. 2ドル.00 per card for return postage + 90c for postage
and just getting DXCC is going to cost you 290ドル dollars. Ridiculous! The
part about being skilled to get your cards is the wrong way to think. There
is no SKILL in getting cards. You send em, you get em. Ham radio has turned
into one big contest and he who has the most money, wins!
Many of you earn 6 figures but many of us do not! How many have a 1000MP
rig? I can't even think of one of those. Way out of my league. I use a
TS930, an AL1200 bought in 1993. All my antennas are pre 1995. I just can't
afford stuff these days. I have to hope my rotor doesn't go bad because I
will not be able to replace it. It was bought in the late 70's.
Off my soap box for now,
73's
Tim, KQ8M
-----Original Message-----
From: jim [mailto:ve3kuc at xplornet.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:30 AM
To: Kamar; 'Peter Dougherty'; kq8m at kq8m.net; 'Garth Hamilton';
dxbase at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dxbase] Re: Dxbase PDF QSL's
 Well Folks there is an easy way to end all this senseless stupid 
debate... Drop ALL the awards programs.. No one and I mean no one would 
have to bitch about not getting a card back from this station or that 
station - no certificates to worry about ...
 We have done practically everything else to kill the hobby,,,
 Slowed the code down - to get more people into the hobby - didn't 
work..
 Dropped the code - to get more people into the hobby - didn't work
 Eased up on the theory to get more people into the hobby - didn't work
 Some countries made the theory practically none existent - to get more 
people into the hobby - didn't work..
 Canada is working on dropping the theory altogether to get more people 
into the hobby - won't work.
 23 channel CB's just might make a come back..
 I get a lot of enjoyment from working DX and I take pride in being able 
to get the cards back from as many of those contacts as I possibly can.. Its
part of the game and the people that are skilled at playing the game will 
get a large percentage of their cards answered.. Everything that we do in 
life is a challenge why should our hobby not have those hurdles to deal 
with..
 Yes - kill the Awards programs and that will solve the problem -- we can
always tell everyone " Oh Yes I Worked That One ".. The old been there - 
done that - got the T-Shirt -- who is going to know any different..
 Sorry guys -- just got sick and tired of reading about what everyone 
wants to do - end result - driving another nail into the coffin of a once 
worthwhile hobby..
 
 
 Jim VE3CM - VE3KUC at xplornet.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kamar" <kamar at inr.net>
To: "'Peter Dougherty'" <w2irt at comcast.net>; <kq8m at kq8m.net>; "'Garth 
Hamilton'" <garthah at computan.on.ca>; <dxbase at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Dxbase] Re: Dxbase PDF QSL's
>> The DXCC 'officials' need to get with the times. Log of the world is good
> step toward Electronic QSL confirmation (and that's all it is) However, I
> still don't have a nice card or a similar facsimile of the DX station's 
> QSL.
>> In my opinion, an electronic transmitted QSL confirmation via a 
> 'protected'
> Adobe PDF or similar type of document, which is then printed, should be
> qualified as confirmation as would be with a 'paper' card transmitted via
> the mail. In the end we have a valid confirmation.
>> Those folks worried about hams cheating, those that do, will continue to
> happen requardless of the transmission media.
>> I'm personally tired of spending money, many times over, to obtain a 'new'
> confirmation with the results of only feeding money with out any results.
> I've been a Ham since 1963, and I've readily adapted to legal electronic
> transmissions. Every email that I send at work becomes a legal document.
> All of my documents at work are now formatted in Adobe PDF (protected) or
> XML formats (they become legal documents).
>> Time the League broaden their DXCC horizons to included other electronic
> verification means.
>>> Ron NU1U
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> On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty
> Sent: August 16, 2007 23:21
> To: kq8m at kq8m.net; 'Garth Hamilton'; dxbase at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Dxbase] Re: Dxbase PDF QSL's
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