[Dxbase] DXCC Award Submission puzzle

Sun Oct 22 18:40:07 EDT 2006

Tony Cash wrote:
> I wonder if you have something screwy with your database file.
> I ran the same submission report:
>> "Output>Awards>DXCC and in that window I select: DXCC Award Type: 10
> meters. Additional selections are QSO Log, Cards Only, Exclude Past Submission, Select Only valid
> for field check, combine RTTY and Digital, Exclude QSO's before 19451115."
>> I came up with 50 selected cards and none of them had been credited already.
>None of the cards it selected for me had been credited either...it's 
just that those that were selected were not needed for the 10 meter 
award I had selected, so they should not appear on the report as they 
are of no value to the selected awards submission... Keep in mind that 
the 'band' awards are independent of mode, i.e. there is no 10 meter cw 
award, or 10 meter phone award, just a single 10 meter DXCC award in 
which mode is not a factor.
> I have forgot how you go about repairing the database file but It is in the help file.
> Just open the help file and search for "repairing" without the quotes and the only
> entry will be "database repair".
>I repaired the database, but that made no difference. Most likely the 
database was just fine.
So I remain puzzled. Maybe it's never actually worked correctly.
Ron, N5IN
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> Subject: Re: [Dxbase] DXCC Award Submission puzzle
>> Trying to understand the DXCC awards submission I have simplified the selection criteria to run this
> test:
>> Output>Awards>DXCC and in that window I select: DXCC Award Type: 10
> meters. Additional selections are QSO Log, Cards Only, Exclude Past Submission, Select Only valid
> for field check, combine RTTY and Digital, Exclude QSO's before 19451115.
>> With these selections I should only generate a list of Cards needed for the 10 meter award which are
> not already credited.
>> The result is 15 selected cards. 
>> The first is XF4MX 10 03 1999 10 CW Revilla Gigedo. 
>> Checking what DXBase2007 has recorded as credited I run the report
> "Arrl_hardcopy_style_DXCCawardcreditsliting.rpt"
>> That report indicates for XF4 the following awards credits: Mixed, Phone, CW, 40, 20, 15, 10. Thus
> I already have 10 metered credited which should mean that no new card is needed for just the10 meter
> award. Checking what DXBase has credited for 10 meter award I find this Q:
>> XF4CI 27 12 1993 10 USB Valid=Mixed+Mode, Award=DXCC, Select=null.
>> Since the individual band modes for DXCC awards are not endorsed by mode, this existing credited Q
> is all that is needed for 10 meters. 
> Submitting a second card will be useless.
>> Additional information: I find that there is a CW card already credited XF4MX 06 03 1993 15M CW
> (obviously an earlier dxpedition by XF4MX), thus no new card for the CW award is needed either. But
> in any case I didn't select awards for CW DXCC only for the single band 10 meter award.
>> I now check the additional 14 cards on the generated list, all of them are Phone Q's, and not one of
> them is actually needed for the 10 meter award, each of these entities have previously been credited
> with CW cards for the 10 meter award.
>> I deselected 'field checking' just in case, but it made no difference, the same 15 cards were
> selected...they were already all within the 10 year window.
>> So to review: The DXCC single band awards are not mode dependent or endorsable, thus if you have
> credited a Phone Q for that entity, submitting a CW card later will not make any change in your
> count
> (credit) for that award.
>> I think I understand the DXCC rules in this regard, leading me to suspect the selection module is
> picking unneeded cards.
>> Of course it was not my intention to just submit for the 10 meter award, I actually had initially
> selected Mixed, Phone, CW, RTTY, 80, 40, 30,20, 17, 15, 12 and 10. It was there that I could see
> that cards were being selected which were unneeded, but the problem is essentially the same, cards
> are being selected which are unneeded..and lots of them! So to use the module I apparently need to
> review it's output and remove lots and lots of cards. It shouldn't be this way.
>> I won't mind in the least if the error is on my part, as long as someone can point out the error in
> my analysis.
>> Ron, N5IN
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