[DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port

Sun, 1 Dec 2002 22:30:49 -0600

And Tony what OS are you doing this in?
Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Cash" <[email protected]>
To: "Jack" <[email protected]>; "Ron Stordahl"
<[email protected]>; "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]"
<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> I don't know about CW (but don't see what the difference would be except
> speed)
> I use a Comtrol USB to Serial port to key my RigBlaster via RTS which in
> turn
> keys the rig on and off for digital modes via Hamscope.
> There are many other programs that will key my RigBlaster via the RTS line
> So if
> DXBase would give us the option to use the RTS line to key CW, why could
it
> not
> be done?
>> 73 de Tony, KD4K
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>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack" <[email protected]>
> To: "Ron Stordahl" <[email protected]>; "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]"
> <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
>>> > Ron,
> >
> > We haven't explorered the internals of USB in too much detail, but as we
> > understand the USB standard, toggling leads like you can with a serial
> port
> > is not possible and the Window's drivers for USB ports do not allow it.
> So,
> > if our "limited" exploration is correct, using a USB port direct will
not
> be
> > an option for communicating with things like keying CW through a
> > transistor/diode circuit, toggling PTT, etc.... unless somebody invents
> > drivers to allow lead access to a USB port. But then that opens up
> another
> > can of worms... hihi.... since the design of operating systems is
becoming
> > more and more rigid about external control of communications ports in
non
> > standard ways.
> >
> > Time will tell.
> >
> > Regards
> > Jack
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Stordahl" <[email protected]>
> > To: "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]" <[email protected]>;
> > <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> >
> >
> > > Here are some prices (from Byterunner)
> > >
> > > 2 port PCI serial card: 46ドル.00
> > > 4 port PCI serial card: 99ドル.00
> > > 8 port PCI serial card: 189ドル.00
> > >
> > > The USB alternative:
> > >
> > > 1 USB to 1 Serial: 20ドル.00
> > > 1 USB to 2 Serial: 38ドル.00
> > > 1 USB to 4 Serial: 110ドル.00
> > >
> > > So, although there is no USB to 8 serial device available that I am
> aware
> > > of, the prices via the USB route are about the same as PCI cards.
> > >
> > > While the Byterunner PCI cards do support DTR CW generation and Baudot
> > code
> > > generation (with DTR push to talk), I would need some evidence that
the
> > USB
> > > alternative would support those very limited (to hams) applications.
> > >
> > > BUT...USB is the future path of PC's. Very compact PC's are being
sold
> > with
> > > no user accessible slots at all.
> > >
> > > Courtny..when you say DXBase does not support a 'direct USB interface'
I
> > am
> > > guessing that you are talking about support for non standard things
like
> > > controlling individual lines (DTR for example). Won't the operating
> > system
> > > allow these converters to look like conventional COM ports for typical
> > > communications use? And as such wouldn't these USB to RS232 devices
> work
> > > for radio frequency control, rotor control, packet tnc, etc.
> > >
> > > Ron N5IN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]" <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > >
> > >
> > > > Courtney,
> > > > I must disagree with the statement that a USB to Serial HUB is a
waste
> > of
> > > > computing power. I have need for more than 4 serial ports and to
> > purchase
> > > > serial port expander cards such as Rocketport is expensive and
> requires
> > > > computing power to operate. The USB to serial HUB is a less
expensive
> > > > option. The serial interface in Windows does not seem to have a
> standard
> > > > that every manufacture or software developer will follow. My hope
is
> > that
> > > > DXBase will support USB in the future and get away from the resource
> > > > problems that hamper standard serial ports.
> > > >
> > > > Bill WA4OYH
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jack" <[email protected]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:05 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Tom,
> > > > >
> > > > > Use a USB to Serial hub and get multiple serial ports from one USB
> > port.
> > > > > DXbase does not support a direct USB interface. ( such a waste of
> > > > computer
> > > > > resources to do so ).
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Courtney
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > > > Subject: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is it possible to control a 756PROII via the USB ports? Thank
> you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom Neill K4XG
> > > > > >
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