[DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
Ron Stordahl
Ron Stordahl" <[email protected]
Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:43:57 -0600
And what operating system....can't see it in your post.
----- Original Message -----
From: "KP4TR/W4 - Ramon Gonzalez" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> I just bought a USB to serial converter on Ebay solely for the intent of
> keing my rig using my currently unused USB port.
>> I had not hooked it up yet when I saw this thread. I couldn't not see why
> RTS and DTR cannot be controlled just like any other COM port, unless
> USB-to-serial devices are strictly XON/XOFF based vs "hardware". I decided
> to test this with Digipan and MMSSTV and my MFJ-1275 sound card interface.
>> I just installed the driver for Windows (Prolific USB-to-Serial Comm Port)
> and configured the device. I tested it on COM3 using Digipan and works
like
> a charm. Tested it with MMSSTV and works great! Tried it with DXBase 2003
> and it doesn't work.
>> So what's the problem with DXBase 2003? I doesn't affect me since I don't
> use the CW option anyhow.
>> 73!
>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Stordahl" <[email protected]>
> To: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <[email protected]>; "Jack"
> <[email protected]>; "Ron Stordahl" <[email protected]>; "Bill
Nowicki
> [WA4OYH]" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
>>> > So far everyone I know of who as tried say they can't control DTR for CW
> > generation via a USB to Serial converter. That's not to say it can't be
> > done...probably nobody needs it (except us hams who are barely a blip on
> the
> > radar).
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Baron - KB3MM" <[email protected]>
> > To: "Jack" <[email protected]>; "Ron Stordahl"
> > <[email protected]>; "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]"
> > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> >
> >
> > > Are you saying that one cannot control DTR and RTS ?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jack" <[email protected]>
> > > To: "Ron Stordahl" <[email protected]>; "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]"
> > > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 20:46
> > > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ron,
> > > >
> > > > We haven't explorered the internals of USB in too much detail, but
as
> we
> > > > understand the USB standard, toggling leads like you can with a
serial
> > > port
> > > > is not possible and the Window's drivers for USB ports do not allow
> it.
> > > So,
> > > > if our "limited" exploration is correct, using a USB port direct
will
> > not
> > > be
> > > > an option for communicating with things like keying CW through a
> > > > transistor/diode circuit, toggling PTT, etc.... unless somebody
> invents
> > > > drivers to allow lead access to a USB port. But then that opens up
> > > another
> > > > can of worms... hihi.... since the design of operating systems is
> > becoming
> > > > more and more rigid about external control of communications ports
in
> > non
> > > > standard ways.
> > > >
> > > > Time will tell.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Jack
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ron Stordahl" <[email protected]>
> > > > To: "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]" <[email protected]>;
> > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 3:32 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Here are some prices (from Byterunner)
> > > > >
> > > > > 2 port PCI serial card: 46ドル.00
> > > > > 4 port PCI serial card: 99ドル.00
> > > > > 8 port PCI serial card: 189ドル.00
> > > > >
> > > > > The USB alternative:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1 USB to 1 Serial: 20ドル.00
> > > > > 1 USB to 2 Serial: 38ドル.00
> > > > > 1 USB to 4 Serial: 110ドル.00
> > > > >
> > > > > So, although there is no USB to 8 serial device available that I
am
> > > aware
> > > > > of, the prices via the USB route are about the same as PCI cards.
> > > > >
> > > > > While the Byterunner PCI cards do support DTR CW generation and
> Baudot
> > > > code
> > > > > generation (with DTR push to talk), I would need some evidence
that
> > the
> > > > USB
> > > > > alternative would support those very limited (to hams)
applications.
> > > > >
> > > > > BUT...USB is the future path of PC's. Very compact PC's are being
> > sold
> > > > with
> > > > > no user accessible slots at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Courtny..when you say DXBase does not support a 'direct USB
> interface'
> > I
> > > > am
> > > > > guessing that you are talking about support for non standard
things
> > like
> > > > > controlling individual lines (DTR for example). Won't the
operating
> > > > system
> > > > > allow these converters to look like conventional COM ports for
> typical
> > > > > communications use? And as such wouldn't these USB to RS232
devices
> > > work
> > > > > for radio frequency control, rotor control, packet tnc, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron N5IN
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Bill Nowicki [WA4OYH]" <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:37 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Courtney,
> > > > > > I must disagree with the statement that a USB to Serial HUB is a
> > waste
> > > > of
> > > > > > computing power. I have need for more than 4 serial ports and to
> > > > purchase
> > > > > > serial port expander cards such as Rocketport is expensive and
> > > requires
> > > > > > computing power to operate. The USB to serial HUB is a less
> > expensive
> > > > > > option. The serial interface in Windows does not seem to have a
> > > standard
> > > > > > that every manufacture or software developer will follow. My
hope
> > is
> > > > that
> > > > > > DXBase will support USB in the future and get away from the
> resource
> > > > > > problems that hamper standard serial ports.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill WA4OYH
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Jack" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:05 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tom,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Use a USB to Serial hub and get multiple serial ports from one
> USB
> > > > port.
> > > > > > > DXbase does not support a direct USB interface. ( such a
waste
> of
> > > > > > computer
> > > > > > > resources to do so ).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Courtney
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [DXBase] Rig Control via USB Port
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is it possible to control a 756PROII via the USB ports?
Thank
> > > you.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Tom Neill K4XG
> > > > > > > >
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