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res documentation and the callsign does not show up the QSO is rejected oth=
erwise it is accepted.=20
I have seen so many different ideas being presented over the past couple of=
 days that I have lost count.=C2=A0 Hams tend to be resourceful when necess=
ary, so let me propose this.=C2=A0 This evening I started counting the numb=
er of places that I know of that publishes the=C2=A0 list of the most recen=
t expeditions that have been approved by the DXCC Desk and when I ran out o=
f fingers and thumbs I decided that was enough counting.=C2=A0 This informa=
tion is published either daily or weekly depending on the publication cycle=
 which means the information is there for the resourceful ham.=C2=A0 I then=
=C2=A0wondered just how hard is it to=C2=A0 create some sort of spredsheet =
or database using a simple text editor,=C2=A0very easy.=C2=A0 The only diff=
icult part is to remember to parse the data from whatever source you find i=
t then enter it into your spreedsheet or database and viola you have your o=
wn source of information.=20
John, KC5LK=20
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Scheper" <kenshep at one.net>=20
To: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv at subich.com>, dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:27:36 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] DXCC=20
As a management consultant for 30 years, the first thing that perks my ears=
=20
is the old..."we've always done it like that" comment. =C2=A0LOTW seems to =
be=20
working now and is very informative, and is re-capturing those that were=20
ready to dump the ARRL due to antiquated methods of DXCC QSL checking, and=
=20
non-support and responsiveness for my membership dollars, or ....bang for=
=20
the buck! =C2=A0Glad someone woke up !!!=20
As has been stated, they finally "got it", but this project may be a bit=20
more "sticky" due to other DX entities authorizations. =C2=A0I've always be=
en=20
mystified by the DXCC. =C2=A0Sometimes, as in my case, the CY0AA documentat=
ion=20
was cleared efficiently and quickly. =C2=A0Where the 7O1YGF, and G3JKI/5A=
=20
expeditions were concerned, it took YEARS to get approved. =C2=A0Some guida=
nce=20
from them would've been helpful, other than..."sorry, the wrong person=20
signed the license". =C2=A0Maybe a database maintained by DXCC of what is n=
eeded=20
for each country to be approved would make things easier. =C2=A0The informa=
tion=20
is out there, they just have to compose and decide on what IS truly needed.=
=20
I know they're jobs aren't easy, but maybe they should look at changing the=
=20
methods to make it easier for them and others.=20
IMHO...with still a THANK YOU to the DXCC for their efforts to make it=20
better in the future.=20
73=20
Ken=20
WA8JOC=20
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From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv at subich.com>=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:30 PM=20
To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>=20
Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] DXCC=20
>=20
> Quite simply anyone that says the information doesn't exist is=20
> blowing smoke. =C2=A0By Bill's own admission, there is a table in the=20
> current DXCC program that lists approved/unapproved operations=20
> and he updates it regularly - sometimes multiple times in a day.=20
>=20
> Expecting a third party like the Lynx group to collect bulletin=20
> announcements to update a web page that does not appear to have been=20
> touched in five years is absurd on its face.=20
>=20
> It should take a database programmer *a few hours at most* to write a=20
> report generator on the DXCC software to create a list - similar to=20
> what is done to generate the "DXCC Standings" and "DXCC Applications=20
> Received" reports that are posted at www.arrl.org/dxcc on a daily=20
> or weekly basis.=20
>=20
> There is nothing in this request/proposal that would increase Bill=20
> Moore's work load by a single minute - that he continues to stone-=20
> wall *reasonable* sunshine in the DXCC program based on his work load=20
> is total nonsense.=20
>=20
> I've been at this "game" for 35+ years and *never* have I felt there=20
> was less "customer focus" than has been displayed by one person than=20
> in the last couple years.=20
>=20
> > To overcome the staff, I think members need to go to their Directors.=
=20
>=20
> I have made my feelings on his matter known to my Director, ARRL=20
> Executive Management and Manager of the MVP Department (which includes=20
> the "Awards Desk"/DXCC Program). =C2=A0 This is not a case of "the data d=
oes=20
> not exist", "how to," =C2=A0or "time to" get the job done ... it is a sim=
ply=20
> that there is no "want to".=20
>=20
> 73,=20
>=20
> =C2=A0 ... Joe, W4TV=20
>=20
>=20
> On 4/30/2013 12:00 PM, dx-qsl-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:=20
>> Message: 4=20
>> Date: 2013年4月30日 00:58:29 +0000=20
>> From: VR2BrettGraham<vr2bg at harts.org.hk>=20
>> To:dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net=20
>> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] DXCC=20
>> Message-ID:<517F1735.6020206 at harts.org.hk>=20
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>>=20
>> W3WN said:=20
>>=20
>>> >But if he & his staff simply don't have the time to maintain a public=
=20
>>> >database,=20
>> About seven years ago, every year I would ask for this information &=20
>> never got a reply. =C2=A0No mailer-daemons coming back, so it had the=20
>> appearance of a member being ignored by staff.=20
>>=20
>> The information already exists & to present it would take all of how=20
>> long it takes to add link pointing to & putting a copy of the file on=20
>> the ARRL web server.=20
>>=20
>> Unless it's still on paper...=20
>>=20
>> To overcome the staff, I think members need to go to their Directors.=20
>>=20
>> 73, ex-VR2BG/p.=20
>>=20
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