[Dx-qsl] DXCC (R1ANB & FJ5DX)

Sun Aug 19 16:07:34 EDT 2012

Dear Friends, 
My problem is solved. Thanks for your help.
73,
Berkin, TA3J
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Sharon TARATULA, ARRL
 R1ANB is Antartica and FJ5DX is Saint Martin. FJ for St Barthelemy/St
Martin is as follows: Beginning December 14, 2007 
 and after it is St Barthelemy December 13, 2007 or before is St Martin.
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Bill MOORE, NC1L
 R1ANB is definitely Antarctica.
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Bernie McClenny, W3UR
 Then your R1ANB QSO should have counted for Antarctica (The ARRL was wrong
on this one) and your FJ5DX QSO should have 
 counted for Saint Martin (The ARRL was correct on this one).
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Alan ZACK, K7ACZ
 Are you sure it's not R1ANC which is definitely CE9. Check out R1ANC on
QRZ.COM .
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Phil DELCROIX, FJ5DX 
 All contacts with FJ stations before December 14th 2007 count for Saint
MARTIN.(FS) Only contacts since December 14th 
 2007 at 0000 utc and after count for Saint BARTHELEMY. (FJ)

 New DXCC Entity, Saint Barthelemy Dec 19, 2007 16:05 ET Bill Moore, NC1L
DXCC Desk Announces New Entity The ARRL DXCC 
 Desk is pleased to announce the addition of St Barthelemy (FJ) to the DXCC
List, making the island entity number 338 
 with an effective date of 14 December, 2007. Cards with contacts dated
December 14, 2007 or after will be accepted for 
 DXCC credit. New card submissions for St Barthelemy will not be accepted
until January 1, 2008 in order to allow time 
 for administrative adjustments. 
 Background On February 21, 2007 the French Ministry issued a decree making
St Barthelemy an Overseas Collective, making 
 its status equal to that of Guadeloupe, Martinique and other French
territories currently on the DXCC List. On November 
 8, 2007 the President of Association Des Radio Amateurs De St Barthelemy,
Philippe Delcroix, FJ5DX, contacted the DXCC 
 Desk, requesting that St Barthelemy be considered a new DXCC entity. The
"event date" that caused St. Barthelemy to be 
 added to the DXCC list was December 14, 2007, the date the US State
Department Fact sheet was updated by the Bureau of 
 Intelligence and Research. This update added St Barthelemy to the List of
Dependencies and Areas of Special Sovereignty 
 with its Administrative Center in Gustavia, qualifying it under DXCC rules
in Section II -- 1 Political Entities (c): 
 c) The Entity contains a permanent population, is administered by a local
government, and is located at least 800 km 
 from its parent. To satisfy the "permanent population" and "administered
by a local government" criteria of this sub-
 section, an Entity must be listed on either (a) the U.S. Department of
State's list of "Dependencies and Areas of 
 Special Sovereignty" as having a local "Administrative Center," or (b) the
United Nations list of "Non-Self-Governing 
 Territories."
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Harvey HUTCHISON, NK0S
 My RI1ANB shows as Antarctica in LoTW.
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Boris KNEZOVIC, E73Y
 R1ANB is definitely Antarctica. FJ5DX before 14-Dec-2007 is St. Martin.
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Ron LAGO, AC7DX 
 They wrong on both cases send Bill a email at dxcc desk nc1l at arrl.org .
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Ron NOTARIUS, W3WN 
 Prefixes change over time.
 At one time R1 was used by Russian Antarctic stations. Now I believe they
use RI1. 
 At one time, FJ was Saint Martin. Now I believe they use FS.
 The DXCC desk knows this, as do the card checkers. Sometimes software
packages aren't always up to date, or more
 likely, don't always indicate the entities that a prefix USED to be
assigned to, only what it CURRENTLY is assigned to.
 Go by what the QSL says. That's what the Desk will go by!
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Nenad STEVANOVIC, VE3EXY 
 R1ANB
 ex CALL(s) 4K1B
 Колл. р/ст. базы "Мирный", Антарктида
 "Mirny" base club station, Antarctica
 QSL via RN1ON (за 2009, 2010 гг)
 QSL via RU1ZC (за 1999, 2001, 2003-март'2004 гг) РОССИЯ
 DELCROIX PHIL
 BP 213
 F-97096 ST BARTHELEMY CEDEX FWI
 St. Barthelemy
 Always add via FRANCE
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Jim SHERWOOD, N4UOZ

 Card for R1ANB shows Antarctica Russian Base
 FJ5DX FJ is St.Barthelemy from 12-14-2007
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Cc: fj5dx at wanadoo.fr; ru1zc at yandex.ru
Subject: [Dx-qsl] DXCC
Dear Friends,
 Is R1ANB Antartica - OR - European Russia? (ARRL DXCC Desk pretends that
this is European Russia.)
 Is FJ5DX Saint Barthelemey - OR - Saint Martin? (ARRL DXCC Desk pretends
that this is Saint Martin.)
 R1ANB's QSO Date is 18 May 2003) - Zone 29/69 - IOTA AN16 - WABA UA07
(Mirny Base / 66 33 S - 99 01 E) - Russian 
 Antarctic Expedition - Antartica.
 FJ5DX's QSO dates are 23 July 2001, 16 September 2001 and 26 January 2002)
- Zone 08/11 - IOTA NA146 - French West 
 Indies - St Barthelemy Island.
Can you give me info please?
73,
Berkin AYDOGMUS, TA3J
www.aydogmus.gen.tr/ta3j
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