[Dx-qsl] PSE ADVISE for SWL card

Thu Aug 16 06:00:57 EDT 2012

Maybe I'm old fashioned but I like an SWL report to be of use to me as a 
DXer. This is what I was taught when I was an SWL and studying for the 
old fashioned type of ham radio exam.......
For example if DL1AA works me and tell me I am 30db over S9, I can't 
really see the point in him sending
me an SWL card telling me that during our QSO his same receiver and 
antenna also heard me at 30db over S9.
It does not make sense. An SWL report should contain some useful 
information for the DX station.
When I have been on expedition and come home I have lots of SWL 
cards. For example
I have spent an afternoon working Germany and central Europe - everybody 
game me 5/9. What is the
point of receiving 10 SWL cards all telling me I'm 5/9 in germany. I 
already know that!
What I have received at home recently is some interesting SWL reports 
from parts of the world I was not working as that specific time. 
Recently I received an SWL report from a New Zealand SWL telling me that 
I was a good signal in ZL when i was working a pile of JAs. Now that 
is more interesting.
I have also received an SWL report from Japan telling me that he heard 
me call CQDX for 15 minutes with no response. Now that too was 
interesting - that obviously I was getting out.
Having said all that I do respond to all SWL reports, but find most of 
little practical value.
I prefer reports where
The SWL is in a different continent from the one I am working
He/she lists at least three consecutive QSOs (to ensure my call has not 
been lifted from the Cluster)
I like a little detail about the SWL setup - receiver / antenna.
Over the time I have received many reports from Andreas and he is one of 
the better SWL stations
who appears to be a "real" SWL, rather than another ham, using the same 
QSO as an SWL report.
73 de Tom
GM4FDM
On 16/08/2012 09:09, Andreas Ibold wrote:
> Phil is absolutely correct - I'm a Ham and SWL.
> Cluster reports are invalid, 2-3 QSOs for a SWL (best one after one) are okay.
>> But when sending a SWL QSL for a QSO with my personal Ham-call, I can't see
> anything wrong in there. Why? Because I have really heard the DX-station (otherwise
> I could not have able to make a QSO with it). And that shows better then anything else,
> that I really have heard them. SWLs are trying to HEAR the DX station. And when I have
> really heard them (even as a Ham), it should be o-kay.
> Is DE1DXX another person as DO1DXX? I have the same name, QTH, Radio and the
> same wife.
>>> vy 73
> Andreas - DE1DXX (SWL) - DO1DXX (HAM)
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
> Von: Yutaka Sakurai (ysakurai) <ysakurai at cisco.com>
> An: Phil Whitchurch <phil at g3swh.demon.co.uk>
> Cc: DX-QSL <DX-QSL at mailman.qth.net>
> Verschickt: Do, 16 Aug 2012 7:48 am
> Betreff: Re: [Dx-qsl] PSE ADVISE for SWL card
>>> Phil,
> I totally agreed with your policy.
> would like to translate the policy to Japanese language.
> Yutaka, JQ2GYU
> -----Original Message-----
> rom: Phil Whitchurch [mailto:phil at g3swh.demon.co.uk]
> ent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 2:41 PM
> o: Yutaka Sakurai (ysakurai)
> c: DX-QSL at mailman.qth.net
> ubject: Re: [Dx-qsl] PSE ADVISE for SWL card
> My particular policy towards SWL cards is set out at http://www.g3swh.org.uk/swl_reports.html
> Unfortunately, very few SWL reports comply as they only list a single station
> orked
> 73 for now
> Phil
> 3SWH
> On 16-Aug-12 04:55:34, Yutaka Sakurai (ysakurai) (ysakurai at cisco.com) wrote:
> Erick, Ken, Murray, and the others,
>> Thank you very much for your advises.
> Actually, we got the SWL card enclosed with the QSL card from the same
> person.
> The SWL card includes 160 - 10m SSB/CW/RTTY, but only 160m CW was made
> by the same operator.
>> Another big issue is that the other reports on the SWL card are the
> just same as the DX-cluster reports.
>> Yes, I, myself, have received such type of SWL reports a lot.
> Sometimes, the call sign that the SWL reports insist I made the QSO
> are not in my log, but he or she just posted me on the DX-cluster.
>> I dare say most SWL reports I have received so far seem not to really
> heard but only based on the DX-cluster reports.
> I am very sad to say that the SWL activities "to get QSL cards" are
> dying in these days when we have the DX-cluster system.
>> Yutaka, JQ2GYU / JF1LZQ / WS2Y / M0LZP / T88YU
>> -----Original Message-----
> From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.
> net] On Behalf Of G. E. Janssens - K5WW
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 1:14 PM
> To: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] PSE ADVISE for SWL card
>>> With all due respect for other
> people's opinions: I do see something w
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