[Dx-qsl] Clublog/Leaderboiard run AMOK??

Tue Oct 25 13:22:26 EDT 2011

Amen! Murray, you hit it right on the head. Having searchable logs 
available on line is extremely helpful to most of us, but the scoring is 
just an ego trip for a few. Drop it.
Barrie W6DX
On 10/24/2011 1:22 PM, Murray Green wrote:
> Simply stated: "Do away with the scoring"! It's questionable value is
> limited to self serving.
>> 73, Murray, K3BEQ
> ------------------------
>> Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW wrote:
>> UNTHINKABLE !
>>>> A.R.S. W5TFW
>> Richard J. Fiero II
>> ARRL Awards Manager
>> www.6mt.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ron Notarius W3WN
>>>>>> As I said to a DX newsletter editor when this news broke the other day:
>>>> Un - flippin' - believable.
>>>> And "flippin" isn't exactly the precise wording I had in mind, but this is a family reflector.
>>>> There is a certain mentality running around our ranks these days of "win at any and all costs", combined with the pseudo-legalese of "if it's not expressly and specifically prohibited, it is by default allowed." This, sadly, is an extension of that line of thought.
>>>> That induhviduals would stoop so low as to take unethical (IMHO) and unsportsmanlike (IMHO) steps like these, merely to put themselves at the alleged top of the heap? Belittles them, and if we allow it, belittles us all.
>>>> There is no excuse for this type of behavior, and if those who are doing it are caught, there should be sanctions. But they won't be caught, and even if they were, somehow the sanctions never do hold up.
>>>> 73
>>>>>> On 10/23/11, Gary K9GS<garyk9gs at wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> SB DX @ WW< KB8NW $OPDX.1033
>> Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 1033
>>>> The Ohio/Penn DX PacketCluster
>> DX Bulletin No. 1033
>> BID: $OPDX.1033
>> October 24, 2011
>> Editor Tedd Mirgliotta, KB8NW
>> Provided by BARF80.ORG (Cleveland, Ohio)
>>>>>> * LEADERBOARD SCORING AT T32C: Michael/G7VJR and Marios/5B4WN from the
>> "Club Log" web page<http://www.clublog.org> report the following:
>> "During the T32C expedition, a large number of stations have succeeded
>> in working the maximum number of slots possible, or share the same number
>> of slots as a large number of other stations. Using the 'first past the
>> post' scoring system, those who worked these slots first are ranked
>> highest. Duplicates count negatively.
>> This scoring system has been manipulated by a small number of stations
>> operating illegally. They have determined that by using someone else's
>> callsign and working T32C, they can create duplicates and force that
>> callsign down the leaderboard.
>> Ranking changes -- In response to this problem, the scoring system for
>> the T32C is changing to a ranking that does not penalize duplicate QSOs.
>> This removes the loophole that is being exploited. This change will be
>> made live on 19th October, with the agreement of the T32C expedition
>> team, to improve the fairness of the scoring."
>>>> *****
>>>> I really thing this whole ClubLog/leaderboard thing has gotten out of hand.
>> People are actually CHEATING to improve their scores....amazing.
>>>>>>>> Thoughts??
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