[Dx-qsl] N5S

Ron Notarius W3WN wn3vaw at verizon.net
Mon Jul 18 19:37:22 EDT 2011


Hello Vlad.
I think you may be underestimating the amount of manual configuring that the
QRZ staff would have to do.
It's one thing right now, when only an occasional 1x1 user makes this
request. Consider, though, what happens when a majority of them do. You'd
have several requests per day, on average, to the staff -- whom are
volunteers doing this on their own time. It can quickly get overwhelming.
And how far in advance do you inform them? Will you request/require the
site and it's administrators to keep track of who's who in a given week?
What if they overlook an update, or apply one too early, or aren't informed
of a change? Or even if a joker up to no good makes a false request? How
much responsibility to you want that site to take over temporary 1x1 call
listings?
There's also another aspect that ought to be considered. Access to the QRZ
database isn't as "free and easy" as it was even a month ago.
Recently, QRZ.COM made a system change. You must be a registered user, and
logged in, to get detailed QSL and other information from their system.
Among the reasons given, and they can be read in great detail in the News
forum on the site, is to cut down on "free loaders" who access the system.
While it is very easy to register and remain logged in, one can see the
trend on that site is to restrict access. Yes, today it's free. But what
about tomorrow? 
And in all fairness to the site, it costs money to rent the servers, host
the databases, and provide the bandwith needed to give all of us fast and
easy access. Is the day far off when a small donation or stipend may be
required as well?
There are other sites available or in development. While they may lack the
depth of QRZ today, that doesn't mean that they will tomorrow.
So is it really wise to demand that a free site, staffed by volunteers,
expend some of their limited resources on providing a handful of users a
temporary convenience?
I don't expect QRZ -- or Buckmaster, or AE7Q, or a dozen or more other US
call sign online directories -- to track temporary 1x1 calls. There's
already a structure in place to do so, run by the various organizations that
allocate the calls on our behalf. Let's just use it and be done with it.
73, ron w3wn
-----Original Message-----
From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On Behalf Of Vlad_UA6JD
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 12:57 AM
To: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] N5S
Hello, Ron.
It is not problem with password. Just need change admin for SES -it
is easy made by any members of QRZ staff.
If you would like change admin to any callsign and you have a permit
- let me know and I will do it (after check info) - jusr few minutes
to do it.
Need only post in QRZ forum with request of change admin callsign or
change main info of callsign, which use by other guys before.
Need only give info BEFORE start operation - operation without info
give a lot of trouble for all of us.
Little example about personal pages: Now with new system in QRZ
possible use it as personal page with full info - photos, scrolling
pages, Log search engine - DX cluster etc.... I am working in QRZ
staff for the help customized our QRZ pages - and show that only
limited group use there page for more info. Look at my page in QRZ
page - I am include here ALL info which I am want to have in my personal
page, include photos of my friends who became Silent Keys,download
section, my story etc and all of them in limited space . I can add more and
more info if I
want it.
QRZ server now not only database for HAM radio - it have a blogs,forum
and give to you chance use it as personal page. And all is FREE . It
is great!
Best regards
73 Vlad UA6JD , QRZcom Staff
Sample and download books
http://www.qrz.com/db/ua6jd#Download
You wrote :
> Sure.

> And then the next person who uses N5S will find that they are locked out
of
> updating the listing because the password for the call will belong to the
> trustee who registered it.

> This is a "solution" that is worse than the problem. Since the US 1x1
calls
> are by their very nature transient and temporary, any expectation that
they
> "ought" to be listed in QRZ.COM is erroneous.

> 73

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
> On Behalf Of Vlad_UA6JD
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 6:14 AM
> To: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] N5S

> For add callsign to QRZ database need report from Trustee or operator in
>http://forums.qrz.com/forumdisplay.php?22-QRZ.COM-Callsign-Database-Helpers
> and DX Helper will add Special callsign to database.

> Nobody asking add N5S to database

> Vlad UA6JD, QRZ staff

> You wrote :
>> I stand corrected. N5S info can be found at: http://www.1x1callsigns.org/

>> However, N5S is not listed on QRZ.COM, the most common QSL info source.
> N4S is listed by QRZ.COM.

>> If I was the Mesilla Valley Radio Club and had requested this
>> special event callsign I think I would have notified QRZ.COM and had
>> the call listed there to avoid confusion. Many logging programs use
>> QRZ.COM as their lookup source so when logging N5S it comes up as
>> The search for "N5S" produced no results.

>> 73

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