[Dx-qsl] Global QSL

Thu Jan 29 01:08:51 EST 2009

"...and having said that, I know buro costs can be high or even monumental
for the domestic QSL manager who has to pay the postage costs both ways.
But that's another issue, for another thread, and one that needs to be
tackled -- another day."
73, ron w3wn
Good points Ron. I have some stations that I handle who do not wish to have theirs sent by buro and I honor that request. Most others do and the cost are sky rocketing and soon the M bags will be much more.
There will come a time when buro is out of the question. One country in particular sends buro cards to America free and I get 3-4 cards for the same call I have mailed to that operator direct...Make any sense??? Not to me it doesnt.
Japan has hurt the idea of buro cards badly.
73
Ron, ac7dx
Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
> The thing is, though, that the GlobalQSL printers are acting as the QSL
> manager for the stations they're printing cards for.
>> Instead of having one entity (printer) print the cards, and another entity
> (manager) process the cards, they're doing a "two for one" -- you might even
> say that they're cutting out the "middle man."
>> The cards coming from US stations are not being physically handled by those
> same US stations, they're all coming in from an overseas manager. Isn't
> that one of the purposes of the buro system?
>> This is not the same as, for example, my sending a card to KQ3DX, er, NB3C
> via the W3 buro. THAT is (IMHO) abuse of the system.
>> So what's the alternative? If I decide to use the GlobalQSL or similar
> service, do I have them ship the non-blank prepared QSL cards to me, and
> have them sit around collecting dust until someone decides to send me a card
> request? (Certainly something that I can do should I so choose, but it's
> one thing for me to ask to do that, another for someone else to demand I do
> that)
>> Look... GlobalQSL and similar printing services aren't for everybody.
> (Personally, I'd still rather roll my own, as I have for several years
> now... I hope W4MPY doesn't regret my doing that!) Even so, it is (IMHO) an
> innovative way to handle QSL duties in an efficient and relatively
> affordable manner. Considering that postage costs continue to escalate,
> anything that can help keep the overall costs down is a benefit.
>> ...and having said that, I know buro costs can be high or even monumental
> for the domestic QSL manager who has to pay the postage costs both ways.
> But that's another issue, for another thread, and one that needs to be
> tackled -- another day.
>> 73, ron w3wn
>> -----Original Message-----
> From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of ron
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:28 PM
> To: Peg Haese KB9LIE; Alfred Laun
> Cc: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Global QSL
>>> The buro is abused more and more and I will soon stop using it. Its a DX
> buro, not US to US.
> 73
> Ron
>>> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Alfred Laun <hs0zar at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> From: Alfred Laun <hs0zar at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Global QSL
>> To: "Peg Haese KB9LIE" <kb9lie at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 1:57 PM
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Peg Haese KB9LIE
>> <kb9lie at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> ARRL was not silent when I contacted them about this,
>>>>> but I didn't save the response. If I send the buro a
>> card from my US call to another US call, how do they know
>> it's in response to a Global QSL?
>>>>>> It is up to the discretion of the Bureau Manager. In the
>> case of our
>> Third Call Area Bureau, the volume of USA-to-USA cards
>> received from
>> Global QSL when they first started up was so small that I
>> simply
>> passed those few cards on to the sorters without comment.
>> But a few
>> of my colleagues in other call areas complained, so now
>> Global QSL
>> filters out USA-to-USA cards before sending them to us.
>>>> However Peg, since you operated from FP-land, a card from a
>> USA
>> station for FP/KB9LIE can legitimately be sent by a USA
>> station
>> through the ARRL HQ Outgoing QSL Bureau. ARRL HQ, knowing
>> that KB9LIE
>> is the manager for FP/KB9LIE cards, will pick that card out
>> of the
>> pile and send it to the W9 Bureau for dispatch to you. As
>> Manager for
>> the DX station FP/KB9LIE, you can include an answer for
>> that card in
>> your next mailing to the outgoing bureau and it will be
>> forwarded to
>> him/her through the Bureau system. That having been said,
>> ARRL does
>> prefer that USA stations, when QSLing a DX station who has
>> a USA
>> manager, QSL direct to the manager with an SASE rather than
>> through
>> the Bureau system. Thus the statement in the web page
>> http://www.arrl.org/qsl/qslout.html which states: "(In
>> the case of
>> DXpeditions and/or active DX stations that use US QSL
>> managers, a
>> better approach is to QSL directly to the QSL manager. The
>> various DX
>> newsletters, the GOLIST QSL manage-r directory, and other
>> publications, are good sources of up-to-date QSL manager
>> information.)".
>>>> As for WF5E (who provides an excellent service, I use it
>> myself), he
>> does provide the Manager with an SASE so that cards can be
>> sent back
>> to him. At regular intervals, he then boxes up the cards
>> for stations
>> served by our Call Area Bureau and sends them to us for
>> distribution
>> through the Bureau system. We get a box from Les about
>> every other
>> month, and the cards always arrive in excellent condition.
>>>> 73, Fred Laun, K3ZO
>> Manager
>> NCDXA/ARRL Third Call Area Incoming QSL Bureau
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