[Dx-qsl] V51AS

Fri Feb 8 01:42:44 EST 2008

My experience trying to get a card from Frank
indicated that there are mail problems both too and
from him.
I sent a card direct to his Namibia address using US
Airmail, and inside I placed a return envelope with
Namibia stamps on the envelope. I never recieved a
card back from this mailing, however 2 months later I
sent a card to him using a group mailing, and when I
received this card on the back Frank indicated
"Already replied"
Clint - WS1V
> Date: 2008年2月07日 06:18:01 -0800
> From: Dick Flanagan <dick at twohams.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] V51AS
> To: "Paul Ciezniak" <pciezniak at comcast.net>
> Cc: Stuart Santelmann KC1F <kc1f at comcast.net>,
> dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID:
><5.2.1.1.2.20080207061553.00bc8c30 at mail.greatbasin.net>
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>> At 03:01 AM 2/7/2008, Paul Ciezniak wrote:
> >Interesting...thanks for the info.
> >
> >By the way, what does YMMV mean?
>> YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary. I.e., just because it
> worked for me doesn't 
> mean it will necessarily work for you, but at one
> time it was a working route.
>> Dick
> --
> Dick Flanagan K7VC NV SM
> k7vc at arrl.org
>>>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 5
> Date: 2008年2月07日 19:09:50 +0300
> From: Andrey Teterukov <eu7sa at inbox.ru>
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] S79UU QSL
> To: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID:
> <E1JN9Ju-000BIH-00.eu7sa-inbox-ru at f152.mail.ru>
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>> S79UU for the November last year operation from
> UA3DX.
> sent 25.11.2007, received 07.02.2008
> Thanks for the new one on 80m and other bands too.
>> 73, Andy
> EU7SA
>>>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:48:19 +0000
> From: "Jack Shirley" <jcshirle at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] DK2WV
> To: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID:
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>> Anyone recently receive a QSL for S07V or C56W VIA
> DK2WV ?
>> THANKS
>> N8DX
>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 7
> Date: 2008年2月07日 10:49:11 -0800
> From: Brian Spindor <ka7kuz.groups at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] V51AS
> To: VR2BrettGraham <vr2bg at harts.org.hk>
> Cc: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <47AB52A7.4090705 at comcast.net>
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>> Brett:
> Well, this started out as a bit of my venting my
> frustration at getting 
> a card from V51AS and has turned a bit from where I
> wanted it to go. 
> With that let me be a little more clear about this
> situation. I need to 
> use you as a bit of example and I would like to hear
> your thoughts on a 
> question or two that I would like to pose to you. 
>> Looking through my logbook, and mind you I'm no big
> station, I have 
> worked you maybe 6 or 8 times. Every QSL I've ever
> sent to you, you 
> have responded to, and, as near as I can tell in a
> timely fashion. I 
> appreciate that and thank you for that, Hong Kong is
> one country that 
> I've gotten confirmed for your efforts. From this I
> would conclude that 
> the postal service from my country to your country
> is reasonably with 
> out corruption (save the few isolated cases) and
> that based on your 
> response to my QSL requests that it does matter to
> you that you fulfill 
> my request to you for a QSL card.
>> But now let me pose a question to you. What would
> you do if you knew 
> your mail was being stolen in the postal service of
> your country?
>> For me, I would be jumping up and down in my post
> office demanding 
> answers and may get my senator/representative
> involved to get to the 
> bottom of it. But because we are talking about
> Namibia, corruption 
> probably runs pretty deep, and if you can rip off a
> few letters to get 
> enough money to feed yourself or your family it is
> probably hardly given 
> a second thought. Going to the post office in
> Namibia at best case 
> probably has net V51AS nothing and who knows it may
> very well bring harm 
> to him for raising the issue. But, I do know that
> V51AS knows his mail 
> is being stolen, by his own testiment and through
> his actions to have 
> the cards forwarded to a DL location.
>> If, I were in that situation, and because it does
> matter to me that 
> others get my QSL card to fulfill their requests, I
> would be looking for 
> more effective means of receiving and returning QSL
> requests. If that 
> means forwarding cards through a DL address I would,
> but, again by V51AS 
> own testiment this has been less than ideal. My
> next option would be to 
> consider a QSL Manager or using LotW, because, as
> stated earlier that it 
> does matter to me that others get my QSL card to
> fulfill their 
> requests. Yes I know, QSL managers cost money, but
> given that V51AS is 
> one of a very small number of V5 stations, I'm sure
> there would not be a 
> shortage of QSL managers or people on this list that
> would not in some 
> way help with this situation. Look in the corner of
> the room and you 
> will see me with my hand up to volunteer some time. 
> Another means is to 
> use LotW; yeah I know there are people who loath
> LotW claiming it is 
> another way for the ARRL to rip off people or that
> the process is far to 
> complicated. All I can do is speak for myself, it
> has been a little bit 
> of work to get it set up, but, once it is going, it
> has been far easier 
> than say....ohhh....going to the post office and 
> explaining/purchasing/redeeming IRC's. I'm certain,
> especially from 
> those who use LotW, that there would a number of
> people that would help 
> V51AS set up and use LotW. I've been through that
> process several 
> times, I do hold several overseas call in addition
> to my US call.
>> So what could I conclude from this? I would
> conclude that it does 
> matter to V51AS to a limited degree that others get
> their QSL requests 
> fulfilled (his stating the mail is being stolen and
> setting up a DL 
> forward address). I contend V51AS could be much
> more effective at 
> QSLing if it really mattered that others get their
> QSL requests 
> fulfilled. Why it matters to a certain degree
> ranges from he doesn't 
> care, family, financial....who knows. For me at
> this point I have to 
> take the same position, his QSL matters to me only
> to a certain degree, 
> and, when I hear him on the again it will matter to
> me to only a certain 
> degree to work him.
>> Lastly, Brett, if you can get the 19ドル out of the
> USPS more power to 
> you....I think I would rather go buy IRC's...hihi
>> Okay, bring on the flames
>> Brian
> KA7KUZ, KA7KUZ/J3, KA7KUZ/TI5, VK3BT, VK2ZK, ZL2KUZ
>> VR2BrettGraham wrote:
> > KC1F responded:
> >
> >>> And besides, why should Frank do anything
> different?
> >>
> >> I hate to be this blunt, but if V51AS gave a
> bleep about getting you 
> >> your QSL card, you'd have it easily, or at least
> a LoTW credit. My 
> >> advice is to wait for one of the occasional
> German portable 
> >> operations that occur from Namibia, and QSL
> through the DARC bureau.
> >
> > How can one conclude that V51AS doesn't give a
> bleep
> > about getting folks their cards?
> >
> > Because Frank doesn't have a manager or use LoTW?
> >
> > Frank does his own cards. That is his choice,
> just like
> > if he chose to work just lists & nets. Why can't
> folks
> > respect that?
> >
> > For those unwilling to use the type of postal
> service
> > apparently necessary to Namibia (registered with
> advice
> > of delivery, which not only helps establish it got
> there,
> > when it does not per the UPU LM there will be
> compensation
> > of ~USD19 plus postage paid to the sender), Frank
> also
> > has mail forwarded to him from DL. The latter
> suggests
> > to me Frank does give a bleep.
> >
> > That some folks have still not gotten cards
> reminds me
> > of the few cases I see every year where requests
> sent
> > to me do not get through. Specifically USA. Some
> > guys have had to try three or four times to get
> through.
> > If I see this from Hong Kong then I would expect
> the same
> > to happen from time to time to mail from USA to
> > anywhere, including Germany.
> >
> > It seems unreasonable to me that folks presume
> that
> > everything posted to Frank gets to him, even via
> DL &
> > even more so the conclusions folks seem to come to
> > as a result.
> >
> > That we on the DX side should get a manager or use
> > LoTW is something I don't think any of us
> appreciate
> > hearing, either.
> >
> > 73 & HLNY, VR2BrettGraham.
> >
> >
> > &quot;Don't it always seem to go that you don't
> know what you've 
> > got...till it's gone.&quot; from Big Yellow Taxi
> (Joni Mitchell) but 
> > also true about QSL.NET if more users don't open
> their wallets and 
> > help financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
> >
> >
>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 8
> Date: 2008年2月07日 22:37:59 +0300
> From: Andrey Teterukov <eu7sa at inbox.ru>
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] QSL received
> To: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID:
> <E1JNCZL-0000G6-00.eu7sa-inbox-ru at f107.mail.ru>
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>> some more QSLs in a box:
> VP8DIZ sent 18.07.07 via G7KMZ.
> Thanks for the new 1 on RTTY.
> PY7XC IOTA SA-072, sent two times direct.
>>> 73, Andy
> EU7SA
>>>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 9
> Date: 2008年2月07日 17:24:50 -0500
> From: w8gc <bob at 2cls.com>
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] CM3GW
> To: dx-qsl <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <47AB8532.90507 at 2cls.com>
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>> Anyone have QSL info for CM3GW ? he has been on 160
> meter CW for about 4 
> months now.
>> TIA, Bob w8gc
>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 21:27:37 -0500
> From: "Shelby Summerville" <k4ww at arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] QSL received
> To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID:
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>> Andrey Teterukov wrote: "some more QSLs in a box"
>> To save the list from the boredom of reading all the
> different calls, I'll 
> only say: "received today, my quarterly 8 pounds of
> cards, 99% unsolicited, 
> and of that 99%, 75% for "already confirmed,
> duplicate band/modes"! I 
> realize the time frame, when sending via the bureau,
> but I remain amazed at 
> the number of stations, that insist on "dumping
> their contest logs" through 
> their bureau? I confirm the ones that have not
> already been confirmed, but 
> the "already confirmed, duplicate band/modes" find a
> "final resting place".
>> C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW 
>>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 11
> Date: 2008年2月08日 12:27:05 +0900
> From: "JA1HGY,Nao Mashita" <ja1hgy at yahoo.co.jp>
> Subject: [Dx-qsl] QSL received
> To: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
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>> Received direct:
>> CT3FT Sent:07/12/27 QSO:07/12/27(80m) IBRS+1GS
> QRZ.com
> J28OO Sent:08/01/09 QSO:07/12/18 SASE via K2PF
>> 73 de JA1HGY, Nao
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