[Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service

Tue Dec 18 18:22:13 EST 2007

"Blow hard"
--- Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net> wrote:
> I'll give you credit for chutzpah, sir, but that's
> all.
>> Threatening to take the ARRL to court for restraint
> of trade for not giving
> you recognition? When you haven't yet asked them
> (as you have told me
> yourself in private emails)?
>> Now I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on
> Television. I do know a good
> one, and I plan to ask him for his opinion of your
> little venture. But be
> so as it may:
>> Exactly how do you suppose that the ARRL is
> allegedly performing "restraint
> of trade" against a service you just started, that
> has no takers to date,
> and that you haven't even talked to yet to see IF
> they would accept your
> digital images in lieu of physical cards?
>> For all we know, you may have a way to do it that
> they'd be willing to
> accept. But how will anyone know if you haven't
> talked to them yet?
>> Or do you believe, as it appears, that you're going
> to get your way merely
> by threatening them? And indirectly yet?
>> It's enough to make one wonder about your business
> practices... but since
> you've already thrown the word "libel" at me
> privately a few times, I'll
> keep my opinions on THAT to myself and let others
> draw their own
> conclusions.
>> Sheesh.
>> -----Original Message-----
> From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of
> w4sco at sco-inc.org
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:26 PM
> To: Danny Douglas
> Cc: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
>>> Thank you for your words of reason.
> I am still waiting for at least 7 years for cards
> (of my own) from 20
> countries. I have sent out cards and green stamps
> more than once, to
> these hams. I think 7 years is long enough to wait.
> So i thought of a
> better system to exchange qsl cards. It is still
> being developed and
> modified to increase user confidence.
>> I am considering all the comments i receive and have
> just added SSL
> security to the system. I have added a checkbox for
> the registering
> users to check that they are the lawful owner of the
> callsign they are
> using. I am also considering having them submit a
> signed copy of their
> license for me to keep on file with their other
> info. I may even look at
> digitally signing each card uploaded and downloaded
> via the system.
>> There is a long established principle in this
> country that there should
> be no monopolies or restraint of trade. Once my
> system is as secure and
> bullet proof as I can make it I will make the ARRL
> aware of my service
> and the need to open their doors (or close them to
> all systems of
> electronic submission [LOTW]). Hopefully with enough
> research and
> support from hams worldwide the ARRL will accept
> what they must do or I
> would need to persue my rights on another path.
>> Les W4SCO
>>> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
> > From: "Danny Douglas" <n7dc at vabb.com>
> > Date: Tue, December 18, 2007 1:06 pm
> > To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
> >
> > >From the responses, it appears to me that no one
> WANTS a new system to
> work.
> > Why are we being negative toward an attempt to
> improve exchanges of cards?
> > There were lots (and still are) of complaints
> against LOTW and eQSL as
> well.
> > And both of them work, for what they are.
> >
> > How about some positive suggestions on how to get
> a printed QSL from the
> DX
> > to us, without the expensive mails services, the
> costs of stamps, IRCs or
> > green stamps, and the long period of time between
> requests and receipts?
> > Today, even legal documents can be sent (and
> legally accepted by
> > authorities) by electronic means. If a fax can be
> accepted as legal
> > documentation for such things as birth, death,
> marriage certificates,
> > insurance paperwork, deeds, etc. why must
> something such as a simple
> > postcard for a hobby be such a scarey tought? 
> There is not a one of us,
> on
> > this group email, that cant simply set down and
> fake any card we wish,
> then
> > send it in for acceptance. Its Our
> trustworthiness keeping us from it,
> and
> > for those who would fake any electronic card,
> there would be no difference
> > between that and what they may already be doing.
> >
> >
> > Danny Douglas
> > N7DC
> > ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
> > SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB
> > All 2 years or more (except Novice)
> > Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
> > I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL
> for
> > those who do.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mr. Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW"
> <w5tfw at cox.net>
> > To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
> >
> >
> > > more Spam !
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr Richard J. Fiero II
> > > A.R.S. W5TFW
> > > Em-40 DXCC VUCC
> > > www.w5tfw.com
> > > www.6mt.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Terry" <terry at kk6t.com>
> > > To: <w4sco at sco-inc.org>
> > > Cc: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
> > >
> > >
> > > > You're creating a false sense of security
> here. All you're insuring
> is
> > > > that the person that registered is the person
> uploading & downloading.
> > > > Until you implement some way to insure that
> the person registering is
> > the
> > > > legal owner of the callsign it's a sham.
> > > >
> > > > 73 de Terry KK6T
> > > >
> > > > w4sco at sco-inc.org wrote:
> > > >> In response to concerns about the security
> level of qsl cards
> exchanged
> > > >> via MyQsl Service I have added SSL to the
> website. This results in a
> > new
> > > >> URL ... https://www.myqsl.cc. This should
> make it virtually
> impossible
> > > >> for anyone other than the registered Hams
> (with their callsigns) to
> > > >> upload and download qsl cards via the system.
> > > >>
> > > >> I am considering also asking users of the
> service to provide a copy
> of
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