[personal] Re: [Dx-qsl] 2 IRC needed list?

Mon Feb 16 11:28:00 2004

Ron brings up a good point. US airmail rates are based on the ounce.....so anything up to one ounce (approx 28 grams) is 80 cents.
I believe many of the postage rates in the world are based on 10 or 15 grams.....it seems I've seen 10 grams in parts of the world (thus the thin envelopes and thinner QSL cards in use at times). I can get something like 6-7 QSL cards in for an ounce...but at 10 grams...the envelope and a few cards at best are what is possible.
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <[email protected]>
Date: 2004年2月16日 10:58:38 -0500
>Ken,
>>Well, glad to hear your local postmaster will exchange an IRC for a 1 ounce
>air mail stamp.
>>That, sad to say, doesn't mean anyone else will. Especially when the bulk
>of the world is metric.
>>If one unit of air mail postage in a given entity covers mass up to, say, 15
>grams, and the return QSL has a mass of, say, 25 grams, then two units of
>air mail postage (ie 2 IRC's) will be required.
>>This may not be according to the rules, but it's often the way it is. And
>amateurs living in areas with rules like this are hardly "..." or anything
>else.
>>73, ron wn3vaw
>>"Life is pain... anyone who says otherwise is selling something"
>--The Princess Bride
>>----- Original Message -----
>From: "KIR" <[email protected]>
>To: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <[email protected]>; "Tom Crawford"
><[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 1:30 AM
>Subject: Re: [personal] Re: [Dx-qsl] 2 IRC needed list?
>>>I disagree. Upon checking with my local postmaster, all countries in the
>Universal Postage Union have agreed that when presented with a 1oz letter
>(or less) and a valid IRC, the postmaster will affix the amount of postage
>stamps necessary for the letter to be sent by air. Period. Anyone living in
>one of these countries asking for more than 1 IRC is .... Now as for GS, if
>a DX station asks for more than 1 GS I will abide by their request. There
>are many valid reasons why 1+ GS are necessary in certain countries. But
>IRCs are treated universally.
>Ken
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ron Notarius WN3VAW" <[email protected]>
>To: "Tom Crawford" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
>Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:49 PM
>Subject: [personal] Re: [Dx-qsl] 2 IRC needed list?
>>>> The back of the (old) IRC's read, in English:
>>>> "This coupon is exchangeable in any country of the Universal Postage Union
>> for one or more postage stamps representing the minimum postage for a
>> priority item or an unregistered letter sent by air to a foreign country"
>>>> Note the wiggle room built in there. "Minimum postage" for example.
>> Remember the old flimsy light weight air mail envelopes? Let's say for
>the
>> sake of argument that minimum postage covered that, just... and that a
>> letter containing a QSL card, or even a QSL card sent "naked" by itself,
>> weighs enough to require 3 stamps? Does it meet the letter of the rules?
>> Sure, but...
>>>> Or, what if the postage for a priority letter (and for the sake of
>argument,
>> let's say it's a domestic one) is half that of an air mail letter? So 1
>IRC
>> is insufficient for an air letter... but it's not against the rules.
>>>> I could go on, but you get the drift. If a given administration wants to
>> redefine IRC useage in such a way as to require more than one, they have
>> many ways to do so -- legally.
>>>> Bottom line: If a DX station says "2 GS or 1 IRC" or "2 IRC no GS" or
>> whatever, don't argue, do as they say. Most of them have good reasons for
>> doing it that way.
>>>> 73, ron wn3vaw
>>>> "Life is pain... anyone who says otherwise is selling something"
>> --The Princess Bride
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Crawford" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 5:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] 2 IRC needed list?
>>>>>> This is something I just haven't come to grips with.
>> If you read the back of the IRC, it says that (for countries honoring the
>> coupon at all) it is good for the delivery of .... one letter equivalent
>to
>> what I interpret to be first class postage.
>> Why would you ever need more than one??
>> I don't think it's appropriate to go through currency conversion,etc.
>> just my thoughts...
>> Tom, W3TMC
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert Scott" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 6:36 PM
>> Subject: [Dx-qsl] 2 IRC needed list?
>>>>>> Does anyone know a website that would tell me which Countries need more
>than
>> one IRC for return postage to the USA? I know VE,JA,ZL,VK need 2 anyone
>know
>> about any others?
>> TU
>> Rob WR3Y
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