[Antennas] Folded counterpoise 160m

Sat Jul 24 13:44:32 EDT 2021

There was a W3 maybe W3BC his last name was Wolfe or Wolf, maybe Ben Wolfe,
I used to hear him during the late afternoon about 4 P.M. when I was
sailing on the East Coast of USA, day after day working European stations
one after another. I was 300 miles out to sea, so I was closer to Europe
but he was working them easily, just like I could sitting out on salt water
with a full sized quarter wave vertical mounted on the top deck of a tanker.
I was intrigued, I called him, he was using a full sized vertical mounted
on the apex of his garage with three elevated resonant radials elevated 7
to 8 feet. He told me that elevated radials were far more efficient than
even the classic 120 broadcast standard radial pattern.
I later was told that in his younger days, Ben worked for FCC and was the
engineer responsible for that 120 radial standard.
The common denominator is coverage, 3 radials in the air provide a ground
return just like 120 radials buried in soil because there's no competition
8 feet up in the air.
I think if you could make the antenna you have into a loop you'd have a
much better antenna. Loops are ground system independent.
73
DR
N1EA
On Sat, Jul 24, 2021, 1:10 PM Steve H <teknoskillz at comcast.net> wrote:
> Thinking about trying a K2AV folded counterpoise and using a nearby
> chainlink fence as the counterpoise instead of the
> 2 poles that contain the folded counterpoise.
>> My idea is to use the fence pole in the center with the white arrow
> pointing
> to it and tie the bottom side of the isolation xfmr to it
> and have it contained in an enclosure tied to the metal pole with tie
> wraps
> or plumbing hose clamps. I would place an 8-10 foot fiberglass mast
> thru the enclosure and come out the top along the mast with the main
> vertical (hat) radial , then dog leg it on an angle thru the treeline to
> the
> north-
> west as per this picture:
>> https://www.mediafire.com/view/v52imippcgem07p/ka2pte_qth-fcp.jpg/file
>> The purple line would be the 120 feet if wire for the "hat" part of the L.
> Each length of the fence is about 130 feet from the center where the white
> arrow marks,
> and each corner has an identical pole, likely in the ground a few feet
> secured with concrete.
> I hear burying counterpoise radials with monopole antennas helps alot, so
> thinking this would stand
> a good chance to serve as a good counterpoise.
>> --
> Steve Hearns [ KA2PTE ]
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