[Antennas] RE: Antennas Digest, Vol 38, Issue 7

Mon Mar 12 21:58:53 EST 2007

A choke across the feed point would not bleed the voltages from the antenna
due to static buildup, but a Choke from each side of the feed point to a
good ground would We use large chokes to feed AC to tower light systems in
AM broadcast antennas that might work to bleed the DC buildup. Typically
these are 50 or so turns of wire on a 3-4 inch form. The high inductance
has little or no de-tuning affect on the RF but provides a good drain for
DC, and almost no blockage for the 60 HZ AC feeding the tower lights.
Remember you are attempting to bleed off the buildup before it reaches arc
over potential (Lightning) rather than suppress the high voltage spikes
produced when the arc occurs.
Bill
WB0KSW

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>> Message: 1
> Date: 2007年3月11日 16:03:33 +0100
> From: Jan <antennas at pa4jj.nl>
> Subject: [Antennas] test
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>> testing
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> Date: 2007年3月11日 16:17:32 +0100
> From: Jan <antennas at pa4jj.nl>
> Subject: [Antennas] assembly instructions
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>> Hello
>> I recently purchased a second hand Warc beam made bu Finnish Antennas.
> However, the person I bought the antenna from cannot find the assembly
> instructions.
>> Anyone on this reflector who can give me the dimensions.
> The boomlength of this older model is (in meters) 3.8 M
>> (The newer version of this model has a boomlenght of 4 M.)
>> Any info would be appriciated.
>> 73's
> Jan
> PA4JJ
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>> Message: 3
> Date: 2007年3月11日 13:54:20 -0600
> From: "Ray Brown" <kb0stn at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Antennas] assembly instructions
> To: <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jan" <antennas at pa4jj.nl>
>>> > I recently purchased a second hand Warc beam made bu Finnish Antennas.
> > However, the person I bought the antenna from cannot find the assembly
> > instructions.
> >
> > Anyone on this reflector who can give me the dimensions.
> > The boomlength of this older model is (in meters) 3.8 M
> >
> > (The newer version of this model has a boomlenght of 4 M.)
> >
> > Any info would be appriciated.
>> Greetings, Jan... did you try their home page for any information?
> http://www.oh2u.com/finnishantenna/products2.htm lists several models,
> which I cannot determine which would be yours from what you stated,
> sorry. Here's a list of what's on that web page...
>>> Oy Finnish Antenna Ltd.
> Catalogs
>> Product Catalog
> JP 7-2 Shorty product sheet
> JP Current Choke-H product sheet
>>> Manuals
>> JP2000 Manual
> JP-Tribander Manual
> JP7-2 Manual
> JP7-2 Shorty Manual
> JP20/17 6L Duobander Manual
> JP6m6 Monobander Manual
> JP10-2 Shorty Manual
>>> Dimensions (Excel sheets)
> 40M2L Shorty
> JP7-3
> JP30-2
> JP14-4
> JP21-4
> JP28-4
>> Other than this, there is very little information out on the Internet
> about any Finnish antennas. Good luck, OM.
>> _Ray_ KBXSTN
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>> Message: 4
> Date: 2007年3月11日 21:06:14 -0400
> From: "G B" <microsys at alltel.net>
> Subject: [Antennas] rf choke
> To: "Antennas" <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
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>> I am starting my 'monster' horizontal loop, about 3 wavelengths at 160M
> averaging about
> 70' high.
>> I am very concerned about the certainty of high induced voltages on the
> antenna during
> thunderstorms. I have heard that I could add an rf choke across the open
> wire line
> junction up at the antenna end.
>> I have never done this, and wonder what kind of choke would be appropriate
> for
> 160M thru 6M???
>> 73's
>> Glen K4KV
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>> Message: 5
> Date: 2007年3月11日 20:30:02 -0600
> From: "Ray Brown" <kb0stn at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Antennas] rf choke
> To: "Antennas" <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "G B" <microsys at alltel.net>
>> > I am starting my 'monster' horizontal loop, about 3 wavelengths at 160M
> > averaging about 70' high.
>> THREE wavelengths... hmmm. There's a local ham that put up a 2 wave
> at 80m antenna during Field Day, and it worked out quite well. I believe
> that it was oriented in a square and it did well I'm just trying to
> envision
> what a 3-wavelength SkyWave would do.
>> > I am very concerned about the certainty of high induced voltages on the
> > antenna during thunderstorms. I have heard that I could add an rf choke
> > across the open wire line junction up at the antenna end.
> >
> > I have never done this, and wonder what kind of choke would be
> > appropriate for 160M thru 6M???
>> I don't know about any choke that would bleed voltages down like that.
> I don't remember for sure what my friend used, if it was a 1:1 or 4:1
> balun
> on the loop. I'd also think about a couple of PolyPhaser supressors. But
> you're out of my league here...
>> _Ray_ KBXSTN
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