Hi Jim, I have had great results, all bands 160-10 with the Alpha-Delta twin sloper (DX-A) even though it is advertised as 160-80-40 only. Mine has the apex at 45 feet, no radials. Tunes fine with the built-in tuners in my TS2000 and K2. FWIW 72 de George/W0AV Hamming since '35