I go to the local super market and buy plastic coat hangers made with thick dark plastic and get two insulators from the bottom and one each from each side of the top. I buy them for about 10/1ドル.00. They are thick enough to drill and pass wire through. Pretty strong, too. 73, Ron K -- W1ARS In a message dated 12/18/02 10:42:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << [email protected] (W2WU) Sender: [email protected] To: [email protected] (David J. Windisch), [email protected] >>