tech-net: Re: IFQ_MAXLEN: How large can it be?

Subject: Re: IFQ_MAXLEN: How large can it be?
To: None <tech-net@netbsd.org>
From: Christoph Kaegi <kgc@zhwin.ch>
List: tech-net
Date: 11/16/2006 08:55:35
On 15.11-14:10, Greg Troxel wrote:
> 
> So I bumped this number on our quite busy firewall up from 256 
> to 1024 and later to 4096, but I still get 1'026'678 dropped 
> packets during 8 days uptime.
> 
> I think this is unwise and will just result in more memory stress. If
> 4096 doesn't help, you're not keeping up often, or there's something
> else going on. I'd be nervous putting this above 256 - people usually
> don't and then you'll be stressing the mbuf system more than others
> have stressed it and fixed it.
> 
> Where are the packets being dropped? Normally received packets get
> put on the (single, system-wide) IP input queue, and then a soft
> interrupt causes them to be processed and placed on output queues.
> Can you post your statistics that point at this? "netstat -s" is
> very useful if you haven't run that, as is "netstat -i".
> 
After what I can see, they're dropped from the IP input queue
(see netstat -q output at the end).
# netstat -s
---------------------------- 8< ----------------------------
ip:
 2848237254 total packets received
 2 bad header checksums
 0 with size smaller than minimum
 18 with data size < data length
 0 with length > max ip packet size
 0 with header length < data size
 0 with data length < header length
 0 with bad options
 0 with incorrect version number
 0 fragments received
 0 fragments dropped (dup or out of space)
 0 fragments dropped (out of ipqent)
 0 malformed fragments dropped
 0 fragments dropped after timeout
 0 packets reassembled ok
 395403 packets for this host
 0 packets for unknown/unsupported protocol
 2801729041 packets forwarded (0 packets fast forwarded)
 124599 packets not forwardable
 1635 redirects sent
 0 packets no matching gif found
 2184588 packets sent from this host
 0 packets sent with fabricated ip header
 0 output packets dropped due to no bufs, etc.
 0 output packets discarded due to no route
 0 output datagrams fragmented
 0 fragments created
 0 datagrams that can't be fragmented
 99 datagrams with bad address in header
icmp:
 1482423 calls to icmp_error
 8793 errors not generated because old message was icmp
 Output histogram:
 echo reply: 320
 destination unreachable: 60035
 routing redirect: 1635
 time exceeded: 1298856
 13 messages with bad code fields
 0 messages < minimum length
 0 bad checksums
 0 messages with bad length
 Input histogram:
 destination unreachable: 13
 echo: 320
 320 message responses generated
 0 path MTU changes
igmp:
 0 messages received
 0 messages received with too few bytes
 0 messages received with bad checksum
 0 membership queries received
 0 membership queries received with invalid field(s)
 0 membership reports received
 0 membership reports received with invalid field(s)
 0 membership reports received for groups to which we belong
 0 membership reports sent
tcp:
 743848 packets sent
 736473 data packets (87991304 bytes)
 1119 data packets (994232 bytes) retransmitted
 6181 ack-only packets (11003 delayed)
 0 URG only packets
 0 window probe packets
 0 window update packets
 81 control packets
 0 send attempts resulted in self-quench
 392068 packets received
 375345 acks (for 87986634 bytes)
 8819 duplicate acks
 0 acks for unsent data
 14376 packets (805497 bytes) received in-sequence
 18 completely duplicate packets (52 bytes)
 0 old duplicate packets
 0 packets with some dup. data (0 bytes duped)
 10 out-of-order packets (0 bytes)
 0 packets (0 bytes) of data after window
 0 window probes
 503 window update packets
 10 packets received after close
 0 discarded for bad checksums
 0 discarded for bad header offset fields
 0 discarded because packet too short
 20 connection requests
 43 connection accepts
 63 connections established (including accepts)
 159080 connections closed (including 7 drops)
 0 embryonic connections dropped
 0 delayed frees of tcpcb
 374663 segments updated rtt (of 91312 attempts)
 530 retransmit timeouts
 0 connections dropped by rexmit timeout
 0 persist timeouts (resulting in 0 dropped connections)
 103 keepalive timeouts
 97 keepalive probes sent
 6 connections dropped by keepalive
 4490 correct ACK header predictions
 6627 correct data packet header predictions
 100 PCB hash misses
 10 dropped due to no socket
 0 connections drained due to memory shortage
 0 PMTUD blackholes detected
 0 bad connection attempts
 43 SYN cache entries added
 0 hash collisions
 43 completed
 0 aborted (no space to build PCB)
 0 timed out
 0 dropped due to overflow
 0 dropped due to bucket overflow
 0 dropped due to RST
 0 dropped due to ICMP unreachable
 0 delayed free of SYN cache entries
 0 SYN,ACKs retransmitted
 0 duplicate SYNs received for entries already in the cache
 4 SYNs dropped (no route or no space)
 0 packets with bad signature
 0 packets with good signature
udp:
 3029 datagrams received
 0 with incomplete header
 0 with bad data length field
 0 with bad checksum
 14 dropped due to no socket
 81 broadcast/multicast datagrams dropped due to no socket
 0 dropped due to full socket buffers
 2934 delivered
 2449 PCB hash misses
 79825 datagrams output
arp:
 52026 packets sent
 21730 reply packets
 30296 request packets
 486913 packets received
 21310 reply packets
 173743 valid request packets
 447459 broadcast/multicast packets
 0 packets with unknown protocol type
 0 packets with bad (short) length
 291860 packets with null target IP address
 0 packets with null source IP address
 0 could not be mapped to an interface
 0 packets sourced from a local hardware address
 0 packets with a broadcast source hardware address
 0 duplicates for a local IP address
 0 attempts to overwrite a static entry
 0 packets received on wrong interface
 0 entrys overwritten
 0 changes in hardware address length
 23096 packets deferred pending ARP resolution
 4809 sent
 13537 dropped
 0 failures to allocate llinfo
---------------------------- 8< ----------------------------
netstat -i
---------------------------- 8< ----------------------------
(network addresses anonymized)
Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Colls
wm0 1500 <Link> 00:30:48:dd:9c:d4 870327391 0 1099730201 0 0
wm0 1500 120.81.1/24 gw1.zhwin.ch 870327391 0 1099730201 0 0
wm1 1500 <Link> 00:30:48:dd:9c:d5 789681410 0 656853416 0 0
wm1 1500 120.81.3/24 gw2.zhwin.ch 789681410 0 656853416 0 0
wm2 1500 <Link> 00:04:23:dd:b9:cc 1072700285 0 874684304 0 0
wm2 1500 120.81.5/24 gw3.zhwin.c 1072700285 0 874684304 0 0
wm3 1500 <Link> 00:04:23:dd:b9:cd 118809847 0 175760316 0 0
wm3 1500 120.81.8/24 gw4.zhwin.ch 118809847 0 175760316 0 0
wm4* 1500 <Link> 00:04:23:dd:f5:c2 0 0 0 0 0
wm5* 1500 <Link> 00:04:23:dd:f5:c3 0 0 0 0 0
lo0 33192 <Link> 0 0 0 0 0
lo0 33192 loopback/8 localhost 0 0 0 0 0
---------------------------- 8< ----------------------------
# netstat -q
---------------------------- 8< ----------------------------
arpintrq:
 queue length: 0
 maximum queue length: 50
 packets dropped: 4419
ipintrq:
 queue length: 0
 maximum queue length: 4096
 packets dropped: 1102533
---------------------------- 8< ----------------------------
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