[Lua vs Python] Luarocks
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- Subject: [Lua vs Python] Luarocks
- From: Eduardo Ochs <eduardoochs@...>
- Date: 2020年1月18日 21:47:45 -0300
Hi list,
here are my 2 cents about the Lua vs Python discussion - in a new
thread.
1) It is unrealistic to ask Roberto and Luiz to choose among rocks
that they've never used and bless some of them. Some people use
luarocks very little or not at all, and Roberto and Luiz may be
some of these people.
2) At this moment it is not very easy to play with a new rock - and it
should be!!! Let me give an example. A few days ago I realized that
I could find a certain bug easily if I had a debugger - I do have
functions that start REPLs and inspect stack frames, but they are
quick hacks that I wrote myself and they're not very good, so I
went to luarocks.org and got this listing:
https://luarocks.org/search?q=debug
I chose "debugger", and did:
luarocks --local install debugger
and discovered that now I have these files:
~/.luarocks/lib/luarocks/rocks/debugger/scm-1/doc/README.md
~/.luarocks/share/lua/5.1/debugger.lua
which is great - this one comes with docs, I don't need to fetch
the source package! - so I did this,
lua5.1
userocks() -- defined in my LUA_INIT file
require "debugger"
-- ...I and got this error:
-- stdin:1: module 'debugger' not found: [blabla many lines]
Voila! Another rock that doesn't work out of the box for me...
3) A few days ago I complained that "luarocks unpack" does not work on
my Debian box. My messages are here:
http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2020-01/msg00099.html
http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2020-01/msg00101.html
http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2020-01/msg00114.html
In an ideal world the problem that I reported in (3) would be
considered EXTREMELY URGENT - *everybody* would know that the first
step towards getting 25 millions of Lua users is to have impeccable
batteries, and the first step towards that is to make luarocks both
super user-friendly and super hacker-friendly... trying a rock should
be something incredibly easy for all kinds of people, including people
who want to look at the source!!!
WE NEED AN ARMY OF LUAROCKS HACKERS.
Cheers,
Eduardo Ochs
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