John, I have just started playing with MMTTY standalong. It opens in less than 2 seconds. The shut down is slower but maybe only 4 seconds. This is using Windows 2000 Pro Jerry, W6IHG ------------------------------------------ Dr. Jerry R. Pixton, PIXOS Designs LLC http://www.pixos.com/designs/RadioTuner/ jpixton@shentel.net ------------------------------------------