Thot it was Illegitimus non carborundum (Take that!, spell checker) But since we have about run through all my Latin I will not debate it. Jim >> Eddie !! >> Non Carborundum Illegitimi >> 73, George, N7GC -- WWW: http://www.writelog.com/ Submissions: writelog@contesting.com Administrative requests: writelog-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-writelog@contesting.com