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Created on 2004年07月11日 03:25 by mkc, last changed 2022年04月11日 14:56 by admin. This issue is now closed.
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| emptyok.patch | mkc, 2004年07月11日 03:25 | emptyok patch against current CVS HEAD 2004年07月10日 | ||
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| msg46352 - (view) | Author: Mike Coleman (mkc) | Date: 2004年07月11日 03:25 | |
This patch addresses bug #852532. The underlying problem is that re.split ignores any match it makes that has length zero, which blocks a number of useful possibilities. The attached patch implements a flag 'emptyok', which if set to True, causes re.split to allow zero length matches. My preference would be to just change the behavior of re.split, rather than adding this flag. The old behavior isn't documented (though a couple of cases in test_re.py do depend on it). As a practical matter, though, I realize that there may be some code out there relying on this undocumented behavior. And I'm hoping that this useful feature can be added quickly. Perhaps this new behavior could be made the default in a future version of Python. (Linux 2.6.3 i686) |
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| msg46353 - (view) | Author: Chris King (colander_man) | Date: 2004年07月21日 12:46 | |
Logged In: YES user_id=573252 Practical example where the current behaviour produces undesirable results (splitting on character transitions): >>> import re >>> re.split(r'(?<=[A-Z])(?=[^a-z])','SOMEstring') ['SOMEstring'] # desired is ['SOME','string'] |
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| msg46354 - (view) | Author: A.M. Kuchling (akuchling) * (Python committer) | Date: 2004年07月27日 14:08 | |
Logged In: YES user_id=11375 Overall I like the patch and wouldn't mind seeing the change become the default behaviour. However, I'm nervous about possibly not understanding the reason the prohibition on zero-length matches was added in the first place. Can you please do some research in the CVS logs and python-dev archives to figure out why the limitation was implemented in the first place? |
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| msg46355 - (view) | Author: Mike Coleman (mkc) | Date: 2004年07月28日 16:23 | |
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I picked through CVS, python-dev and google and came up with
this. The current behavior was present way back in the
earliest regsub.py in CVS (dated Sep 1992); subsequent
implementation seem to be mirroring this behavior. The CVS
comment back in 1992 described split as modeled on nawk. A
check of nawk(1) confirms that nawk only splits on non-null
matches. Perl (circa 5.6) on the other hand, appears to
split the way this patch does (though I wasn't aware of that
when I wrote the patch) so that might argue in the other
direction. I would note, too, that re.findall and
re.finditer tend in this direction ("Empty matches are
included in the result unless they touch the beginning of
another match.").
The python-dev archive doesn't seem to go back far enough to
be relevant and I'm not sure how to search it. General
googling (python "re.split" empty match) found a few hits.
Probably the most relevant is Tim Peters saying "Python
won't change here (IMO)" and giving the example that he also
gives in a comment to bug #852532 (which this patch
addresses). He also wonders in his comment about the
possibility of a "design constraint", but I think this patch
addresses that concern.
As far as I can tell, the current behavior was a design
decision made over 10 years ago, between two alternatives
that probably didn't matter much at the time. Skipping
empty matches probably seemed harmless before
lookahead/lookbehind assertions. Now, though, the current
behavior seems like a significant hindrance. Furthermore,
it ought to be pretty trivial to modify any existing
patterns to get the old behavior, should that be desired
(e.g., use 'x+' instead of 'x*').
(I didn't notice that re.findall doc when I originally wrote
this patch. Perhaps the doc in the patch should be slightly
modified to help emphasize the similarity between how
re.findall and re.split handle empty matches.)
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| msg46356 - (view) | Author: Mike Coleman (mkc) | Date: 2004年09月03日 20:15 | |
Logged In: YES user_id=555 Apparently this patch is stalled, but I'd like to get it in, in some form, for 2.4. The only question, as far as I know, is whether empty matches following non-empty matches "count" or not (they do in the original patch). If I make a patch with the "doesn't count" behavior, could we apply that right away? I'd rather get either behavior in for 2.4 than wait for 2.5... |
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| msg46357 - (view) | Author: Raymond Hettinger (rhettinger) * (Python committer) | Date: 2004年09月05日 22:53 | |
Logged In: YES user_id=80475 Fred, what do you think of the proposal. Are the backwards compatability issues worth it? |
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| msg46358 - (view) | Author: Mike Coleman (mkc) | Date: 2005年12月09日 17:04 | |
Logged In: YES user_id=555 This patch seems to have been stalled now for over a year. Could it be applied? Or, alternatively, could someone provide some sort of reason why it shouldn't be? Thanks. |
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| msg46359 - (view) | Author: Filip Salomonsson (filip) | Date: 2006年01月16日 21:56 | |
Logged In: YES user_id=308203 I agree completely that splitting on non-zero matches should be supported - and that the default behavior should change at some point - but I don't think this patch quite covers it. Taking an example from the dev-python thread back in August of 2004 (http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2004-August/047272.html): >>> re.split('x*', 'abxxxcdefxxx', emptyok=True) ['', 'a', 'b', '', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f', '', ''] To me, this means there's an empty string, beginning and ending in pos 0, followed by a zero-width divider also beginning and ending in the same position, followed by an 'a', etc. That seems awkward to me. I think a more intuitive result would be (I'm omitting the emptyok argument in the following examples): >>> re.split('x*', 'abxxxcdefxxx') ['a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f', ''] That is, empty matches cause a split when they are not adjacent to a non-empty match and not at the beginning or the end of the string. Grouping parentheses would, of course, reveal the empty-string boundaries: >>> re.split('(x*)', 'abxxxcdefxxx') ['', 'a', '', 'b', 'xxx', '', 'c', '', 'd', '', 'e', '', 'f', 'xxx', ''] Using the same approach, these results would also seem perfectly reasonable to me: >>> re.split('(?m)$', 'foo\nbar\nbaz') ['foo', '\nbar', '\nbaz'] >>> re.split('(?m)^', 'foo\nbar\nbaz') ['foo\n', 'bar\n', 'baz'] Splitting a one-character string should be possible only if the pattern matches that character: >>> re.split('\w*', 'a') ['', ''] >>> re.split('\d*', 'a') ['a'] |
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| msg46360 - (view) | Author: Mike Coleman (mkc) | Date: 2006年01月17日 22:37 | |
Logged In: YES user_id=555 I think I still agree with my original answer on this (see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2004-August/047321.html). I'm completely worn down on this, though, so I'd happily take any of these options as an improvement over the present situation. |
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| msg46361 - (view) | Author: Mike Coleman (mkc) | Date: 2007年02月22日 03:23 | |
Hello from 2004! This is your long-lost bug in re.split--how's it going? I'm still alive and well. I think everyone pretty much agrees that I really am a bug, and at least one guy still writes code just to work around me every few weeks or so. My attempt to keep a low profile is doing well--I'm not even documented in the library reference. This allows me to meet new Python users on a regular basis (whether they like it or not). Well, that's it for now. If I don't hear from you until then, I'll drop you another line in 2009. (Hey I'm a poet, too!) Regards, bug 852532/patch 988761 |
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| msg69372 - (view) | Author: Gregory P. Smith (gregory.p.smith) * (Python committer) | Date: 2008年07月07日 04:39 | |
take a look at the patch being worked on in issue #3262. |
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| msg69851 - (view) | Author: Georg Brandl (georg.brandl) * (Python committer) | Date: 2008年07月16日 22:35 | |
Closing as a duplicate of #3262, which seems to be active. |
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| Date | User | Action | Args |
| 2022年04月11日 14:56:05 | admin | set | github: 40540 |
| 2008年07月16日 22:35:16 | georg.brandl | set | status: open -> closed nosy: + georg.brandl resolution: duplicate messages: + msg69851 |
| 2008年07月07日 04:39:50 | gregory.p.smith | set | nosy:
+ gregory.p.smith messages: + msg69372 |
| 2004年07月11日 03:25:40 | mkc | create | |