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Created on 2010年06月16日 14:00 by mark.dickinson, last changed 2022年04月11日 14:57 by admin. This issue is now closed.
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| dtoa_parsing.patch | mark.dickinson, 2010年06月16日 18:19 | review | ||
| dtoa_parsing2.patch | mark.dickinson, 2010年06月16日 20:51 | review | ||
| rewrite_strtod.patch | mark.dickinson, 2010年06月19日 10:47 | review | ||
| rewrite_strtod_v2.patch | mark.dickinson, 2010年07月06日 15:25 | review | ||
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| msg107923 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月16日 14:00 | |
I've opened this issue to track efforts to improve the quality of the Python/dtoa.c file, which provides Python's string-to-float and float-to-string conversions. Particular issues in mind (non-exhaustive): - do a thorough review and test of _Py_dg_dtoa; this has already been done for _Py_dg_strtod (issue 7632, issue 7743), and uncovered several problems, including a memory leak, some asserts that were triggered in debug mode, and many cases of wrong output. - break out the parsing code from _Py_dg_strtod into a separate function, for clarity and maintainability (and possible re-use of the parsing code itself) - improve _Py_dg_strtod tests, by using contined-fractions to generate and test particularly difficult cases. - _Py_dg_strtod silently gives wrong results for huge inputs; while not particular serious, this is easily avoidable. - improve API to rely on errno less. - some pieces of code are currently unused; improve code coverage and tests to identify thoses pieces and remove them. - the current code is convoluted in places and hard to explain; at least some extra comments should be added. - try to make Python/dtoa.c as Python-agnostic as possible, so that the code can be reused in other projects where desired. |
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| msg107938 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月16日 17:04 | |
Created new 'py3k-dtoa' branch for this work in r82024. |
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| msg107943 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月16日 18:18 | |
A couple of preparatory commits: r82025: In _Py_dg_strtod, 'e' now represents the adjusted exponent rather than the base exponent; that is, the input value is of the form +- m * 10**e with 0.1 <= m < 1.0. It's easier to produce such an 'e' from the parsing stage if we care about detecting overflow and underflow. r82031: Update the s2b function: remove a premature optimization in order to make s2b more general and its correctness more easily verifiable; alter the way that the input string is parsed so that it doesn't depend on nd0 being in the range [0, nd]. |
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| msg107944 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月16日 18:19 | |
And here's a patch to pull out the parsing stage of _Py_dg_strtod into a separate function. |
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| msg107945 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月16日 18:41 | |
r82032: Commit some additional tests for test_strtod.py. test_extra_long_significand will currently fail; with the dtoa_parsing patch, it passes. |
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| msg107948 - (view) | Author: Eric V. Smith (eric.smith) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月16日 18:58 | |
I realize the ship's already sailed on this issue [1], but isn't it a problem that editing this code makes it more difficult to apply patches from Gay's original code? What do we do if Gay releases a new version of his code with bug fixes? [1] Sorry non-native American-English speakers. I mean that we already have this problem since we've already modified the code. |
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| msg107949 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月16日 19:09 | |
Gay's changes tend to be very small; any bugfixes he releases can likely be applied by hand, if they're relevant. I did originally want to keep close to Gay's code, but frankly I'm not very happy with the quality of that code; and in communications with Gay it's become clear that there are issues that will not be fixed upstream, but that I consider unacceptable for Python's copy of dtoa.c. Some examples of problems with the original code: (1) Gay's code does no checking of return values from malloc. We had to add those checks, which was the first point at which our code started diverging from his. (2) There's a segment at the beginning of the bigcomp function that's unnecessary, and in fact would produce incorrect results if it were ever called; it's just about possible to show that it *can't* ever be called. I've asked David Gay about this, but he insists that it's necessary. (I've removed it in Python's version of the code.) (3) The original code silently produces wrong results for huge inputs (more than 20000 characters); I know this is an extreme use case, but again I find this unacceptable for Python. (I haven't asked Gay about this; I'd be very surprised if he wanted to do anything about it, though.) (4) The original code is horribly convoluted in places, making it very difficult to check for correctness. (For example, see the spaghetti mess in the parsing section of strtod.c). |
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| msg107950 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月16日 19:22 | |
Here's the section of the 'bigcomp' code that I was referring to above:
/* Now b/d = exactly half-way between the two floating-point values */
/* on either side of the input string. Compute first digit of b/d. */
if (!(dig = quorem(b,d))) {
b = multadd(b, 10, 0); /* very unlikely */
dig = quorem(b,d);
}
You can see it in the original source at http://www.netlib.org/fp/dtoa.c
This code is part of the algorithm for strtod. Here b and d are Bigints, and b / d is a fraction that gives an approximation to the value of the input to strtod; the aim is to produce the digits of b / d one-by-one to compare them with the strtod input, and (eventually) use the result of that comparison work out whether to round up or down.
If the condition of the 'if' block above is ever satisfied, b is multiplied by 10 (that's the multadd(b, 10, 0) call), so the fraction b / d is multiplied by 10 (with no corresponding correction for the strtod input string), and the wrong comparison is made!
There are many other similar pieces of code in _Py_dg_strtod that can never get called (I've run coverage programs over the code to help verify this); trying to establish the correctness of the current code isn't easy.
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| msg107951 - (view) | Author: Eric V. Smith (eric.smith) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月16日 19:25 | |
Just to be clear: I'm okay with this divergence, as long as we've made it clear we're explicitly doing so and we've given our reasons. Mark's done that, and of course he's the expert in the subject. |
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| msg107955 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月16日 20:51 | |
Here's an updated version of the parsing patch, with rewritten comments, but no significant code changes. |
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| msg107958 - (view) | Author: Alexander Belopolsky (belopolsky) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月16日 22:23 | |
Mark, It is great to see you doing this. I looked at this code on several occasions before and each time ran away scared! I sincerely hope I will understand how it works after your rewrite. Just a small suggestion at this point: can you give longer names to args and local variables? The current alphabet soup is a bit confusing: c, s, s0, s1, se, s00(!), e, nd, nd0, pnd, pnd0 ... |
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| msg108141 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月18日 21:18 | |
r82079: Apply a version of the parsing patch to pull the parsing code out into a separate function. Alexander, I agree about the names; I'll do a mass renaming later on. I'm trying not to mix the significant algorithm-changing commits with trivial renaming/reindenting/commenting commits, to make it easier to review each independent change. |
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| msg108142 - (view) | Author: Eric V. Smith (eric.smith) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月18日 21:36 | |
It would be easier for me to review if you did it in the other order: fix the variable names first. Although I'm still pretty busy and won't have much time to review, so my needs shouldn't be your first priority. |
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| msg108168 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月19日 10:21 | |
r82080: Whitespace fixes. r82081: In strtod, simplify the computation of the initial approximation. r82082: Fix typo introduced in r82025 (I think); this was preventing a shortcut from being taken. r82087: Simplify the ratio function. The previous ratio function (actually, b2d), aborted if the numerator was zero, and the current code ends up requiring special cases for zero as a result of this. That restriction is now removed, which will allow further simplifications (to come) in strtod. |
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| msg108169 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月19日 10:47 | |
Patch that does a fairly significant rewrite of strtod; it's still (mostly) based on Gay's code, but there are some significant changes. Some background: strtod, after dealing with easy cases, works roughly as follows: (1) Using floating-point arithmetic, create a double *rv* holding an approximation to the input value; this approximation may be out from the true value by several ulps (perhaps as much as 10 ulps; certainly not more than 100 ulps). (2) If the input string is very long, truncate it (accepting that this introduces a small error), and work with the truncated value below. (3) Use integer arithmetic to compute (an approximation to) ulps difference between *rv* and true value. Possibly return immediately if the ulps difference can be proved to be <= 0.5 ulps, and we're not in any of various exceptional cases. (4) Use the ulps difference to correct *rv* to a new value. (5) If the ulps difference has fractional part close to 0.5, or if the correction takes us past a power of 2, or if it takes use near/to the max representable double, or to 0.0, go around the correction loop again. (6) If we still can't decide (because the ulps difference is very close to 0.5), call bigcomp to settle the issue once and for all. The new patch simplifies the above procedure considerably: - scaling of rv is used for very large values as well as very small ones; this simplifies handling of overflow, meaning that there's only a single place where overflow has to be detected. - the adjustment step handles adjustments that cross power-of-2 boundaries correctly. - as a result of the above two simplifications, there's never any need to do a second correction step, so the main correction loop is no longer a loop; a single correction is performed. - we always use the bigcomp function in hard cases, so there's no longer any need for the computation of ulps_difference to detect the case where the error is exactly 0.5 ulps. The patch isn't quite ready to apply; I want to expand some of the comments a little. |
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| msg108516 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月24日 15:02 | |
Another issue to consider, brought to my attention by Rick Regan: Python's dtoa.c code likely misbehaves (i.e., returns incorrectly rounded results) if the FPU rounding mode is anything other than the round-half-to-even default. (This is also true of Gay's original dtoa.c, I suspect.) For example, the quick-return path in strtod does a single floating-point operation on exact arguments, so will end up behaving according to the FPU rounding mode. The long integer-arithmetic-based path will likely return round-half-to-even results, independently of the FPU rounding mode. It's debatable what Python should do if the FPU rounding mode is something other than round-half-to-even. It can either: - try to honour the FPU rounding mode, or - ignore the rounding mode completely, always doing round-half-to-even. I'd prefer the latter behaviour, for various reasons: - it maintains consistency across platforms - it's consistent with many other Python operations, that already do round-half-to-even regardless of FPU rounding mode---examples include float.fromhex and float.hex, true division of integers, the round() function... It seems possible that Python might one day want to be able to control the rounding direction of decimal <-> binary conversions, but when that day comes I don't think playing with the FPU rounding mode is going to be the best control mechanism. I don't regard this as a terribly serious issue, though: most normal users are unlikely to end up in a situation where the FPU rounding mode has changed unless they've been deliberately and knowingly messing with FPU settings. |
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| msg108517 - (view) | Author: Alexander Belopolsky (belopolsky) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月24日 15:06 | |
> - ignore the rounding mode completely, always doing round-half-to-even. +1 |
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| msg108519 - (view) | Author: Eric V. Smith (eric.smith) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月24日 15:15 | |
> > Alexander Belopolsky <belopolsky@users.sourceforge.net> added the comment: > >> - ignore the rounding mode completely, always doing round-half-to-even. > +1 Agreed. +1 |
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| msg108525 - (view) | Author: Stefan Krah (skrah) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年06月24日 16:05 | |
+1, if the FPU mask is always restored (as I understand, this is the case now). |
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| msg109398 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年07月06日 15:25 | |
Second version of the strtod rewrite; has some additional documentation and comment fixes. No other significant changes from the first version. This is still a work in progress. |
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| msg109416 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年07月06日 19:16 | |
r82614: add functionality to change FPU rounding mode (via float.__setround__ and float.__getround__ functions), on platforms that support the standard C99 fesetround and fegetround functions: >>> float.__getround__() 'tonearest' >>> 1e300 * 1e300 inf >>> float.__setround__("downward") >>> 1e300 * 1e300 1.7976931348623157e+308 This is just temporary, so that I can test that FPU rounding mode doesn't affect results of string-to-float and float-to-string conversions. I'm not planning to merge any of r82614 back to py3k. |
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| msg113246 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2010年08月08日 09:57 | |
Version of the rewrite_strtod patch applied in r83813. |
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| msg148735 - (view) | Author: Rick Regan (DoctorBinary) | Date: 2011年12月01日 19:29 | |
> if (!(dig = quorem(b,d))) {
> b = multadd(b, 10, 0); /* very unlikely */
> dig = quorem(b,d);
> }
>
> This code is part of the algorithm for strtod. Here b and d are
> Bigints, and b / d is a fraction that gives an approximation to
> the value of the input to strtod; the aim is to produce the
> digits of b / d one-by-one to compare them with the strtod input,
> and (eventually) use the result of that comparison work out whether
> to round up or down.
> If the condition of the 'if' block above is ever satisfied, b is
> multiplied by 10 (that's the multadd(b, 10, 0) call), so the
> fraction b / d is multiplied by 10 (with no corresponding correction
> for the strtod input string), and the wrong comparison is made!
Mark,
I think I know the motivation for this code, although I still don't know how it could hit. The halfway value H is scaled by a power of ten to put it in the form "d1.d2d3d4d5...". The power of ten exponent is derived from the input decimal string S, instead of computing it from H using logarithms.
Now what if H's exponent does not match S's? I'm thinking of cases like S = 10^n and H = 9.99999999... * 10^(n-1). Scaling H by 10^-n would make it 0.999999999... . That leading 0 needs to be removed, by multiplying by 10, do put it in the right form.
First of all, I don't know if a case like this is possible. Second of all, the check would fail either way (1 against 0 vs 1 against 9).
BTW, b / d represents only the significant digits of H, so it shouldn't matter that there's no corresponding adjustment to the input string.
To summarize: I'm not saying this code is necessary; I'm just saying it makes you wonder.
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| msg159618 - (view) | Author: Mark Dickinson (mark.dickinson) * (Python committer) | Date: 2012年04月29日 15:56 | |
Dropping this due to lack of time; unless anyone else wants to pick it up, it should probably be closed as "won't fix". |
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| 2022年04月11日 14:57:02 | admin | set | github: 53255 |
| 2014年02月16日 16:14:59 | mark.dickinson | set | status: open -> closed resolution: wont fix |
| 2012年04月29日 15:56:55 | mark.dickinson | set | priority: normal -> low assignee: mark.dickinson -> messages: + msg159618 |
| 2011年12月01日 19:29:52 | DoctorBinary | set | nosy:
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