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Created on 2015年04月22日 17:14 by barry, last changed 2022年04月11日 14:58 by admin. This issue is now closed.
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| msg241816 - (view) | Author: Barry A. Warsaw (barry) * (Python committer) | Date: 2015年04月22日 17:14 | |
As described here: http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=20150422115959.1ff2ee58%40limelight.wooz.org Importing a submodule binds the submodule's name in the parent module's namespace. This is surprising, but it seems intentional and it's relied upon by existing code, e.g. asyncio/__init__.py in the stdlib. It's also not documented afaict. It should be documented in the Language Reference's section on the import system. After a little more discussion on import-sig, I plan on doing that. |
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| msg241817 - (view) | Author: Barry A. Warsaw (barry) * (Python committer) | Date: 2015年04月22日 17:20 | |
From Guido: It's definitely intentional, and it's fundamental to the package import design. We've had many implementations of package import (remember "ni.py"? last seen as "knee.py") and it was always there, because this is done as part of *submodule loading*. For better or for worse (and because I didn't know Java at the time :-) Python declares that if you write `import foo.bar` then later in your code you can use `foo.bar` to reference to the bar submodule of package foo. And the way this is done is to make each submodule an attribute of its parent package. This is done when the submodule is first loaded, and because of the strict separation between loading and importing, it is done no matter what form of import was used to load bar. I guess another thing to realize is that the globals of __init__.py are also the attribute namespace of the package. I'm not surprised it's in the reference manual -- that hasn't been updated thoroughly in ages, and I sometimes cry when I see it. :-) So please do clarify this for the benefit of future implementers. |
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| msg241818 - (view) | Author: Barry A. Warsaw (barry) * (Python committer) | Date: 2015年04月22日 17:50 | |
More rationale from the thread: > The surprising part is that it also happens for explicit relative > imports. I'm guessing that part was unintentional and simply not > noticed when PEP 328 was implemented. > No, that must also have been intentional, because even when you use relative import, the module you imported knows its full name, and that full name is used as its key in sys.modules. If someone else uses absolute import for the same module they should still get the same module object. |
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| msg241822 - (view) | Author: Eric Snow (eric.snow) * (Python committer) | Date: 2015年04月22日 18:33 | |
Guido describes the global invariant for *all* the forms of importing a submodule, including explicit relative imports: > I just mean that for relative import > there is no need to bind the submodule to the parent, is there? But there *is* a reason. The submodule must still be an attribute of the parent package, because of the invariant that if you have sys.modules['foo'] and sys.modules['foo.bar'], the latter must appear as the 'bar' attribute of the former. This is an invariant of module loading, and (I feel I'm repeating myself) the form of import used does not affect loading. |
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| msg241829 - (view) | Author: Barry A. Warsaw (barry) * (Python committer) | Date: 2015年04月22日 21:49 | |
Here's some new text for the Language Reference. |
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| msg241830 - (view) | Author: Eric Snow (eric.snow) * (Python committer) | Date: 2015年04月22日 22:16 | |
LGTM. You've covered all the key points and the example is good. |
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| msg241831 - (view) | Author: Barry A. Warsaw (barry) * (Python committer) | Date: 2015年04月22日 22:25 | |
Cool, thanks! I'll commit it and we can always clean it up/add to it later if needed. |
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| msg241832 - (view) | Author: Roundup Robot (python-dev) (Python triager) | Date: 2015年04月22日 22:38 | |
New changeset 3968e7a9614c by Barry Warsaw in branch '3.4': Issue #24029: Document the name binding behavior for submodule imports. https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/3968e7a9614c New changeset 351ad8c4f3a6 by Barry Warsaw in branch '3.4': Issue #24029: Document the name binding behavior for submodule imports. https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/351ad8c4f3a6 New changeset 6295f207dfaa by Barry Warsaw in branch 'default': Issue #24029: Document the name binding behavior for submodule imports. https://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/6295f207dfaa |
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| 2022年04月11日 14:58:15 | admin | set | github: 68217 |
| 2015年04月22日 22:40:30 | barry | set | status: open -> closed resolution: fixed |
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| 2015年04月22日 22:25:55 | barry | set | messages: + msg241831 |
| 2015年04月22日 22:16:27 | eric.snow | set | messages: + msg241830 |
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| 2015年04月22日 17:50:52 | barry | set | messages: + msg241818 |
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