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http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Tiger%203.x/builds/7331/steps/test/logs/stdio
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FAIL: test_debug (tkinter.test.test_tkinter.test_text.TextTest)
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Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/Users/db3l/buildarea/3.x.bolen-tiger/build/Lib/tkinter/test/test_tkinter/test_text.py", line 22, in test_debug
 self.assertEqual(text.debug(), 0)
AssertionError: '0' != 0
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FAIL: test_insertborderwidth (tkinter.test.test_tkinter.test_widgets.EntryTest)
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Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/Users/db3l/buildarea/3.x.bolen-tiger/build/Lib/tkinter/test/test_tkinter/test_widgets.py", line 329, in test_insertborderwidth
 self.checkPixelsParam(widget, 'insertborderwidth', 0, 1.3, -2)
 File "/Users/db3l/buildarea/3.x.bolen-tiger/build/Lib/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py", line 167, in checkPixelsParam
 conv=conv1, **kwargs)
 File "/Users/db3l/buildarea/3.x.bolen-tiger/build/Lib/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py", line 57, in checkParam
 self.assertEqual2(widget[name], expected, eq=eq)
 File "/Users/db3l/buildarea/3.x.bolen-tiger/build/Lib/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py", line 41, in assertEqual2
 self.assertEqual(actual, expected, msg)
AssertionError: 0 != 1
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FAIL: test_insertborderwidth (tkinter.test.test_tkinter.test_widgets.SpinboxTest)
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Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/Users/db3l/buildarea/3.x.bolen-tiger/build/Lib/tkinter/test/test_tkinter/test_widgets.py", line 329, in test_insertborderwidth
 self.checkPixelsParam(widget, 'insertborderwidth', 0, 1.3, -2)
 File "/Users/db3l/buildarea/3.x.bolen-tiger/build/Lib/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py", line 167, in checkPixelsParam
 conv=conv1, **kwargs)
 File "/Users/db3l/buildarea/3.x.bolen-tiger/build/Lib/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py", line 57, in checkParam
 self.assertEqual2(widget[name], expected, eq=eq)
 File "/Users/db3l/buildarea/3.x.bolen-tiger/build/Lib/tkinter/test/widget_tests.py", line 41, in assertEqual2
 self.assertEqual(actual, expected, msg)
AssertionError: 0 != 1

There's something odd going on with that buildbot. The failures are from Serhly's new tests. For 10.4 Tiger, the buildbot should be running Tk 8.4. It does seem to have a third-party Tcl and Tk installed in /Library/Frameworks, which is good, but the logs don't show exactly what patch level it is. David, can you identify what patch levels of Tcl and Tk are installed? more /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/tclConfig.sh /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/tkConfig.sh should work.

We can add a print for a patchlevel.

The failures are sporadic, I don't understand how the tests can pass sometimes...

New changeset 74b76a726285 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '3.3':
Print Tk patchlevel in test_tcl in verbose mode (issue19654).
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/74b76a726285
New changeset 1b58f14f5d60 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch 'default':
Print Tk patchlevel in test_tcl in verbose mode (issue19654).
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/1b58f14f5d60
New changeset 78c906600183 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '2.7':
Print Tk patchlevel in test_tcl in verbose mode (issue19654).
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/78c906600183 

New changeset cfbd894f1df1 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '3.3':
Print Tk patchlevel in Tk and Ttk tests in verbose mode (issue19654).
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/cfbd894f1df1
New changeset cf8ac1272e07 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch 'default':
Print Tk patchlevel in Tk and Ttk tests in verbose mode (issue19654).
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/cf8ac1272e07
New changeset 08f282c96fd1 by Serhiy Storchaka in branch '2.7':
Print Tk patchlevel in Tk and Ttk tests in verbose mode (issue19654).
http://hg.python.org/cpython/rev/08f282c96fd1 

http://buildbot.python.org/all/builders/x86%20Tiger%203.x/builds/7408/steps/test/logs/stdio
patchlevel = 8.4.19
Does it help to know the full version?

The failures in test_tk here are the same ones documented in Issue19761 for Tk 8.4 so this issue could be closed as a duplicate of that one. The mystery remains why test_tk appears to alternately pass and fail on this buildbot. I don't see why it doesn't always fail.

> The mystery remains why test_tk appears to alternately pass and fail on this buildbot. I don't see why it doesn't always fail.
test_tk not fails in case when it is just skipped. And why it is sporadic skipped, this is very interesting question.